From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 4e23cd0 4/5: * mail/rmail.el (rmail-show-message-1): When displaying a mime message,
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2015 16:51:31 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150407165131.GA2600@acm.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1YfW8I-0002VD-IZ@fencepost.gnu.org>
Hello, Richard.
On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 12:13:46PM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote:
> > > In my book, "I want everything to work like CVS" means a lack of
> > > motivation to learn.
> Why should I have a "motivation to learn" so much about using git?
> I am not learning it our of curiosity!
> You make an analogy of fishing. Suppose you are a teacher, and
> a government imposes the rule that every teacher must catch a fish
> each day in order to be allowed to teach that day. Do you want
> to learn to fish, or do you want the rule cancelled?
> Development tools are supposed to make our work easier -- not harder.
> For me, Git means many hurdles to jump in order to do the things that
> were easy before.
For what it's worth, I agree with you here on all the points you make.
> Also, I do this infrequently enough that I will have time to forget
> whatever I learn now.
I have had the good fortune/misfortune of having to learn this tool to a
minimum level of competence to be able to contribute to Emacs at all.
This cost me many, many hours I would rather have spent doing other
things. I'm committing often enough not to forget between commits - for
the moment, at any rate.
Git is a monster to learn, taking an order of magnitude longer than to
learn Mercurial or Bazaar, and a greater jump still from learning CVS.
I would prefer just to be a user of a VCS. With most VCSs, this is
possible. With git, it is not; one has to know a good deal of its
internal workings to use it at all.
However, a lot of people like git, possibly for reasons similar to the
ones why we dislike it. As a project we're stuck with it for the
foreseeable future. :-(
> --
> Dr Richard Stallman
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
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2015-04-05 12:56 ` [Emacs-diffs] master 4e23cd0 4/5: * mail/rmail.el (rmail-show-message-1): When displaying a mime message, Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-05 13:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-05 13:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-05 15:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-05 19:47 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-05 20:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-05 22:32 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-06 7:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-06 12:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-06 12:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-06 23:32 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-07 6:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-07 16:13 ` Richard Stallman
2015-04-07 16:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-07 16:51 ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2015-04-07 17:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-07 20:11 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-04-08 6:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-08 1:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-08 10:48 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-04-08 22:19 ` chad
2015-04-09 13:16 ` Richard Stallman
2015-04-09 1:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-09 7:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-09 12:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-09 12:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-09 16:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-08 18:19 ` Richard Stallman
2015-04-09 1:31 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-09 7:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-09 16:24 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-04-09 16:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-10 4:53 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-04-10 7:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-10 8:30 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-04-11 19:18 ` Richard Stallman
2015-04-12 6:10 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-04-13 21:06 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-04-13 23:08 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-04-14 17:16 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-04-14 17:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-14 21:23 ` João Távora
2015-04-15 2:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-15 8:09 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2015-04-15 16:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-15 16:21 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2015-04-15 16:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-14 21:47 ` Steinar Bang
2015-04-08 18:21 ` Richard Stallman
2015-04-08 18:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-08 19:18 ` John Yates
2015-04-09 13:41 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-04-08 1:32 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-08 18:19 ` Richard Stallman
2015-04-09 1:19 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-09 7:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-09 11:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-07 20:45 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-04-08 5:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-05 17:42 ` Richard Stallman
2015-04-05 18:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-06 5:50 ` Richard Stallman
2015-04-06 7:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-06 7:45 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2015-04-07 16:13 ` Richard Stallman
2015-04-07 17:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-08 12:02 ` Sebastien Vauban
2015-04-08 12:26 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2015-04-08 18:01 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-04-08 12:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-15 0:34 ` Rostislav Svoboda
2015-04-05 17:42 ` Richard Stallman
2015-04-05 19:01 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2015-04-05 21:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
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