From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs 24.5 second release candidate Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 17:33:10 +0000 Message-ID: <20150402173310.GF23848@acm.fritz.box> References: <87619fvb9s.fsf@blueberry.home> <87384juhme.fsf@blueberry.home> <87zj6qtzch.fsf@blueberry.home> <20150402140228.GB23848@acm.fritz.box> <838uear1xa.fsf@gnu.org> <20150402161256.GC23848@acm.fritz.box> <834moyqwb9.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1427996632 15532 80.91.229.3 (2 Apr 2015 17:43:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 17:43:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rgm@gnu.org, nicolas@petton.fr, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 02 19:43:35 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ydj9S-0007k7-Ll for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Apr 2015 19:43:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59688 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ydj9S-0006r5-4F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Apr 2015 13:43:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41808) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ydize-0007UQ-GQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Apr 2015 13:33:27 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YdizZ-0000rF-UO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Apr 2015 13:33:26 -0400 Original-Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:59145 helo=mail.muc.de) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YdizZ-0000qs-Ly for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Apr 2015 13:33:21 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 78910 invoked by uid 3782); 2 Apr 2015 17:33:21 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (pD951899C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.81.137.156]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Thu, 02 Apr 2015 19:33:18 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 1802 invoked by uid 1000); 2 Apr 2015 17:33:10 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <834moyqwb9.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 9.x X-Received-From: 193.149.48.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:184798 Archived-At: Hello, Eli. On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 08:22:50PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 16:12:56 +0000 > > From: Alan Mackenzie > > Cc: rgm@gnu.org, nicolas@petton.fr, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, > > emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > Do you have an estimation of how much time you will need? > > Perhaps this evening, perhaps tomorrow morning. It's one of these nasty > > little bugs which looks totally wierd and random until one stumbles upon > > the cause, after which it takes 2 minutes to fix. > > > Also, was this bug caused by a recent commit, and if so, which one? > > No, I don't think it was. I think it was "unmasked" by a recent bug > > "fix", d69e9f1c24f37f36af33b0468c5a4e100dbb09b6 from 2015-02-01. Oleh > > Krehel, the OP of the pertinent bug #20245, says that with that change > > reversed, the bug symptoms don't manifest themselves. I haven't checked > > this yet, but it sounds plausible. That fix is actually incomplete, > > requiring Monday/yesterday's fix to make it complete. > > I'm beginning to come round to the view that perhaps it might be best > > just to take d69e9f1c24f37f36af33b0468c5a4e100dbb09b6 out of Emacs 24.5, > > as Oleh Krehel has explicitly suggested. > Sounds plausible. Please share your opinions after you study the > issue. OK. Will do. I'm hard at at, and making some progress. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).