From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Perry E. Metzger" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs contributions, C and Lisp Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 12:41:21 -0500 Message-ID: <20150120124121.2270ebdd@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> References: <54B1B97E.9070204@gmail.com> <87fvbhk4ha.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <54B456C8.6010506@gmail.com> <8761cbhvhb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <54B5AA10.7080606@gmail.com> <54B6F8EF.7020401@gmail.com> <54B8326B.90804@gmail.com> <54B889CC.9030401@gmail.com> <19FB0015-E64B-4161-9BDE-BD6C41A9402F@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1421775699 3126 80.91.229.3 (20 Jan 2015 17:41:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 17:41:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: chad , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 20 18:41:38 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YDco5-0007IL-CT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2015 18:41:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44980 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YDco4-0005VB-Om for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2015 12:41:36 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50018) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YDco1-0005V3-Ds for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2015 12:41:34 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YDcnx-0007MK-3M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2015 12:41:33 -0500 Original-Received: from hacklheber.piermont.com ([166.84.7.14]:37885) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YDcnw-0007LV-Vj; Tue, 20 Jan 2015 12:41:29 -0500 Original-Received: from snark.cb.piermont.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hacklheber.piermont.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C5C77E; Tue, 20 Jan 2015 12:41:22 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from jabberwock.cb.piermont.com (jabberwock.cb.piermont.com [10.160.2.107]) by snark.cb.piermont.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3E6B2DEB9F; Tue, 20 Jan 2015 12:41:21 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.25; x86_64-apple-darwin14.0.0) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 166.84.7.14 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:181482 Archived-At: On Sun, 18 Jan 2015 23:35:26 -0500 Richard Stallman wrote: > The GCC developers told me Dragon Egg is not practical for real use. It is no longer practical for real use because of bitrot. It was the preferred C++ front end for LLVM before Clang matured and was quite usable at that time. > But it is indeed an example of the danger that concerns me. Your concern about people mixing and matching parts of software is not crazy. As many of us have acknowledged in the course of these discussions, that can indeed happen. The question is whether it is worth making lots of important things impossible to do in the FSF's free software ecosystem in order to prevent bad things from happening here and there. (There are also those like me who argue that, because of LLVM, it is already more or less no longer possible to prevent the bad things from happening anyway.) > To read all the mail that people sent about this, and think about > it, I need a block of time. That is understandable. I think the only concern is that it would be better that this not be put off indefinitely. Perry -- Perry E. Metzger perry@piermont.com