From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eric S. Raymond" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 05:54:33 -0500 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs Message-ID: <20141206105433.GD19750@thyrsus.com> References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <2815659.zRQ0WWWeRr@descartes> <20141205175810.GD3120@thyrsus.com> <87lhmlncb1.fsf@earlgrey.lan> <20141205193643.GB5067@thyrsus.com> <87a931vzlp.fsf@dod.no> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417863295 12833 80.91.229.3 (6 Dec 2014 10:54:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 10:54:55 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 06 11:54:50 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XxD0j-0007Co-EN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 11:54:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54025 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxD0i-0005FP-SW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 05:54:48 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44519) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxD0c-0005FK-1g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 05:54:46 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxD0T-00057S-TK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 05:54:41 -0500 Original-Received: from static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net ([71.162.243.5]:32874 helo=snark.thyrsus.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxD0T-00057O-Oo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 05:54:33 -0500 Original-Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6D411382B98; Sat, 6 Dec 2014 05:54:33 -0500 (EST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87a931vzlp.fsf@dod.no> X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 71.162.243.5 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179148 Archived-At: Steinar Bang : > > What are the alternatives, really? asciidoc. rST. Sphinx. Some > > flavor of markdown. > > org-mode. To be fair, that does look like a more viable technical choice than when first I raised the issue. But I still have a concern that we would fail in the ultimate goal of the change if the outside reaction is "Emacs tribe off doing its own insular thing again". I think we need a choice that faces outwards, not inwards. -- Eric S. Raymond