From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eric S. Raymond" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 15:53:20 -0500 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs Message-ID: <20141205205320.GA7237@thyrsus.com> References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <87mw72lyzs.fsf@earlgrey.lan> <20141205190925.GA5067@thyrsus.com> <83h9x93leo.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417812826 1155 80.91.229.3 (5 Dec 2014 20:53:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 20:53:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cwebber@dustycloud.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 05 21:53:40 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xwzsh-0000o6-Cd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 21:53:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52433 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xwzsh-0000po-0A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 15:53:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38457) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xwzsb-0000pi-1c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 15:53:37 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwzsW-0007mX-Qc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 15:53:33 -0500 Original-Received: from static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net ([71.162.243.5]:58352 helo=snark.thyrsus.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwzsP-0007ip-93; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 15:53:21 -0500 Original-Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CBFE238350C; Fri, 5 Dec 2014 15:53:20 -0500 (EST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83h9x93leo.fsf@gnu.org> X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 71.162.243.5 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179010 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii : > > Because Texinfo is a barrier in itself, full of ceremony and heavyweight > > markup. > > Nonsense. You have Texinfo markup in your fingertips. So do I. The difference is, I can perform the cognitive distancing act required to see how it looks to newbies. Apparently you can't. > > The state of the art has moved well past it - modern formats like > > asciidoc (or perhaps even org - others may be right about that) are > > both lighter and more powerful. > > How about showing those advantages, instead of throwing > unsubstantiated FAD? Sure. Go look at the asciidoc masters in the Linux or git source trees. -- Eric S. Raymond