From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>
Cc: Jorgen Schaefer <forcer@forcix.cx>,
Helmut Eller <eller.helmut@gmail.com>,
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Multiple next-error sources
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 17:40:29 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141107174029.GB2865@acm.acm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <545CFD05.6060104@dancol.org>
Hello, Daniel.
On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 05:10:29PM +0000, Daniel Colascione wrote:
> On 11/07/2014 04:55 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> > It would seem that the use of single functions, with `add-function' is
> > inferior to the conventional hook mechanism in every way. What am I
> > missing? In addition to the things cited by Daniel, there's:
> > (i) the danger (near certainty) that somebody is going to use `setq'
> > rather than `add-function' to configure it;
> The same critique applies to regular hooks, doesn't it?
:-) So it does! What I was confused about is foo-function. I think
this is going to be a defun in the future, whereas up to now it's always
been a defvar. This is confusing. So whereas you'd use "(setq
c-backspace-function 'foobar)", and use `funcall' to invoke it, you'd say
"(add-function 'foo-function 'foobar)" (or whatever), and just call
`foo-function' as a function.
> > (ii) the additional incompatibility with other Emacsen;
> I'm not sure that compatibility with other Emacsen is as important as it
> once was. AIUI, GNU Emacs is receiving the vast majority of development
> effort.
It may be less important than it was, but that's no reason for dismissing
it altogether.
> > (iii) the difficulty (or perhaps clumsiness) in looking at the contents
> > of an advised function. There would seem to be nothing equivalent to
> > M-: after-change-functions.
> > So why are you changing from the conventional hook mechanism, which works
> > so well? What is the advantage of the new scheme.
> > Incidentally, I had a look at the documentation for add-advice, and
> > there's a problem with it. "Advice" in English has no plural - there's
> > no such word as "advices". If it's necessary to emphasize the plurality,
> > then "pieces of advice" can be used. There's no such thing as "an
> > advice", rather you'd say "some advice". It's a bit like you wouldn't
> > refer to a lake as "a big water"; you'd say it contains "a lot of water".
> > I think there's a term in linguistics for such a word, but I don't know
> > it off hand.
> I think "advise" ...
"advice" ??
> ... works like "code" in the software sense and "furniture". The term
> is "mass noun".
Thanks! "Furniture" is indeed a better example than "water".
> > Incidentally 2, the verb corresponding to the noun "advice" is "to
> > advise".
> Isn't English fun?
Indeed it is! You get to appreciate it especially when you live in a
place where they don't speak your native language (much).
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
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2014-11-02 14:15 Generalizing find-definition Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-02 15:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-02 16:29 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-02 18:14 ` Helmut Eller
2014-11-02 18:35 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-02 19:51 ` Helmut Eller
2014-11-02 20:17 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-03 2:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-03 7:03 ` Helmut Eller
2014-11-03 7:44 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-03 14:17 ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-03 14:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-03 18:28 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-03 20:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-03 20:55 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-03 22:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-04 14:52 ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-04 18:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-04 23:13 ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-05 2:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-06 15:33 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-11-06 19:40 ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-07 2:57 ` Yuri Khan
2014-11-07 20:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-11-03 22:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-04 14:58 ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-03 23:46 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-04 7:58 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-04 2:52 ` Yuri Khan
2014-11-04 7:41 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-06 15:22 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-11-06 16:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-06 17:00 ` Helmut Eller
2014-11-06 17:08 ` Multiple next-error sources Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-06 23:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-07 9:49 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-07 14:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-07 15:24 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-11-07 15:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-07 16:08 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-11-07 18:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-07 18:22 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-11-07 19:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-07 15:41 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-07 16:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-07 16:55 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-07 17:10 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-11-07 17:40 ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2014-11-08 8:55 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-11-07 18:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-07 18:21 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-07 18:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-07 19:51 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-03 14:46 ` Generalizing find-definition Stephen Leake
2014-11-03 16:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-04 15:39 ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-04 18:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-17 20:10 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-18 8:07 ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-18 11:24 ` Helmut Eller
2014-11-18 12:48 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-11-18 12:03 ` Helmut Eller
2014-11-19 14:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-19 14:51 ` Ivan Shmakov
2014-11-19 22:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-20 0:15 ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-20 4:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-18 16:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-20 0:21 ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-20 4:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-20 20:21 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-20 13:44 ` Helmut Eller
2014-11-20 20:28 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-20 20:42 ` Helmut Eller
2014-11-20 23:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-20 23:42 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-21 3:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-21 8:24 ` martin rudalics
2014-11-30 13:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-23 13:44 ` Johan Claesson
2014-12-01 17:31 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-04 3:13 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-04 8:07 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-04 12:45 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-04 9:11 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-04 16:19 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-04 16:49 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-05 9:43 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-05 13:25 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-05 17:41 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-06 8:55 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-06 18:19 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-06 18:38 ` Drew Adams
2014-12-07 16:52 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-06 22:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-07 9:55 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-08 14:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-08 19:58 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-08 21:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-08 21:58 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-12-09 2:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-09 2:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-09 8:40 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-09 14:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-09 14:47 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-11 4:06 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-11 8:09 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-11 11:12 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-11 18:36 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-11 19:21 ` David Engster
2014-12-11 19:36 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-11 21:53 ` David Engster
2014-12-11 22:04 ` David Engster
2014-12-12 7:26 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-11 22:52 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-11 23:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-11 23:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-11 15:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-11 18:43 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-11 20:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-11 20:31 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-11 21:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-15 17:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-15 21:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-15 21:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-15 21:57 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-15 22:06 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-15 22:17 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-15 22:26 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-15 22:41 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-15 22:54 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-15 23:03 ` Helmut Eller
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2014-12-16 21:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-17 7:25 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-19 8:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-19 8:49 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-19 14:34 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-19 8:56 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-19 13:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-25 20:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-26 3:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-28 22:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-29 0:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-29 0:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-29 1:54 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-29 14:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-29 16:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-29 17:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-29 17:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-29 18:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-27 19:01 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-27 21:22 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-12 1:29 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-12 3:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-12 11:15 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-12 13:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-13 9:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-12 5:05 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-10 9:11 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-10 13:02 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-10 17:00 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-10 19:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-12 1:03 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-10 14:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-11 4:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-08 22:36 ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-02 22:26 ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-03 7:31 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-03 8:13 ` Helmut Eller
2014-11-03 13:49 ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-03 17:58 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-04 15:54 ` Stephen Leake
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