From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Raw string literals in Emacs lisp. Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 08:47:44 +0000 Message-ID: <20140802084744.GA3541@acm.acm> References: <878ungor1v.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <8761ijng08.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <871tt7lzro.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <53D567FD.4030708@porkrind.org> <87r412iobp.fsf@lifelogs.com> <53D9586F.6020705@porkrind.org> <87bns6in3g.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1406969592 11273 80.91.229.3 (2 Aug 2014 08:53:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 08:53:12 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 02 10:53:05 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XDV3n-0003KO-HR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2014 10:53:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43427 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XDV3n-0001kH-8g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2014 04:53:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42761) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XDV3c-0001jz-LK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2014 04:53:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XDV3U-0001OM-Uo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2014 04:52:52 -0400 Original-Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:52033 helo=mail.muc.de) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XDV3U-0001O5-Kf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2014 04:52:44 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 16564 invoked by uid 3782); 2 Aug 2014 08:52:41 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (pD9518E63.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.81.142.99]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Sat, 02 Aug 2014 10:52:40 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 4531 invoked by uid 1000); 2 Aug 2014 08:47:44 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87bns6in3g.fsf@lifelogs.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 8.x X-Received-From: 193.149.48.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:173371 Archived-At: Hello, Ted. On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 04:54:43PM -0400, Ted Zlatanov wrote: > ....., I just want a simple syntax for literal data :) > How about using a Unicode character as the marker? (prepares for stoning) OK, it's taken time, and nobody else looks like they're about to do it, so I will cast the first stone. NO, NO, NO, NO! The only Unicode characters to be used in Emacs are those that are also ASCII characters, with a tiny number of essential exceptions (for example, the non-European characters in the sentence-end regexp, and, of course, people's names in comments). A Non-ASCII character is difficult to type for most people. Not all setups can display it. Adopting such a character would mean a lot of work for a lot of people. And using such characters as delimiters would introduce yet one more incompatibility with XEmacs which, Stephen informs us, uses #r"..." for raw strings. Why not just adapt that convention? Easy to type, easy to read, easy to parse. > Ted -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).