From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Barry Warsaw Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Time to drop the pre-dump phase in the build? Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 15:20:35 -0500 Organization: Damn Crazy Followers of the Horn Message-ID: <20140110152035.2889f2d0@anarchist.wooz.org> References: <20140110191530.5772E38019B@snark.thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/F10Nf2dhQiYs0PlUPXwKgF3"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389385257 4892 80.91.229.3 (10 Jan 2014 20:20:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 20:20:57 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 10 21:21:05 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W1iZk-0006vk-5P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 21:21:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58883 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1iZj-0003zT-Ov for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 15:21:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34018) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1iZZ-0003v2-2L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 15:21:00 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1iZR-0005c6-OJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 15:20:53 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:38975) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1iZR-0005bw-Hy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 15:20:45 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W1iZQ-0006NN-K8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 21:20:44 +0100 Original-Received: from mail.wooz.org ([216.15.33.194]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 21:20:44 +0100 Original-Received: from barry by mail.wooz.org with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 21:20:44 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 42 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: mail.wooz.org X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:168043 Archived-At: --Sig_/F10Nf2dhQiYs0PlUPXwKgF3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Jan 10, 2014, at 02:15 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: >Maybe it's time to stop pre-dumping compiled Lisp into the Emacs build. Interestingly enough albeit tangential, I haven't even byte-compiled my personal elisp files in *decades*. I just load them from source, which wor= ks much better with having them under a vcs. Performance (startup or runtime) hasn't been a problem since I made the switch. I'm not suggesting that for all of Emacs's elisp of course. -Barry --Sig_/F10Nf2dhQiYs0PlUPXwKgF3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJS0FYTAAoJEBJutWOnSwa/H8kP/0AgAVo/WBqkTUxVitIKHtO4 HzkyPxBboy1zZgQLMu8JvrCgyc5vs1saAbyAUh4qMOP77gGU8iQh8SfB8EciEGjs A42D5/jqjm3l1wfZrjcl+FGFWUJzd8t3LEgtScRhTanhaVR2waL7MDcbY9cGxeHJ j/H8aJvCe8mu4Ucy/74xEAPrI3eg1OOV3xmphv+GXo40qH5emPAzXqmJhGFE+kiY z1qDHBh+4ryYkDJiTGHCgMJp5FR1YnbkUeAKyfD2W53jB6ZdOLeBS+d8+xJ/HO08 QGA0V6NKmpoVzy/HIkhgVnrunwkvoiQXBr4chBq3KGHvh10GA2z4u22VeIKXdlCf Nut6qx2KS90CQCosYHoUuIWfgZ/6KOK+i8wS5IUuYbMOfX0O5KJb7uiYuR6ptjJ2 3tktrXAlcolMESaZGzN1BHzUlAXTvyfmTiR74wH+ZHn5DpyG/Pl3kFQzVc4M1p8g lgoosTxKuBGZOX2Mkc4+Ntu8A5Um1JV1b1Nd6nnVEplss24xwrSNCLneHUsJ3nSz DzTChO2k9TGo/jXmod+iSrHDU4T0BpmZi9YVbel+xnuUxSgWwtPO9OxSydMdxG5f da8ig1AZAR1tihwJA/tCuZt6PD52Q7dkt8ciPUT2zNLzE4m+nd0mFZXydLo+j5iI IxRQmkoVuuDPVSMPmawU =4+5E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/F10Nf2dhQiYs0PlUPXwKgF3--