From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xue Fuqiao Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On the subject of Git, Bazaar, and the future of Emacs development Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 07:00:06 +0800 Message-ID: <20130401070006.1b17508d3c3c69b69ac22bc7@gmail.com> References: <87ehf1cwc4.fsf@maru.md5i.com> <20130331220136.GA16863@saturn> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364770867 31714 80.91.229.3 (31 Mar 2013 23:01:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 23:01:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Michael Welsh Duggan , Leo Liu , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Giorgos Keramidas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 01 01:01:34 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UMRFk-0003c6-0f for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 01:01:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50359 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMRFJ-0005Gv-GP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 19:01:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37552) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMREp-0005Cf-2i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 19:01:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMREL-0005rC-Hp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 19:00:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-da0-x22e.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22e]:33975) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMREL-0005no-B6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 19:00:05 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-da0-f46.google.com with SMTP id y19so825624dan.5 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 16:00:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Z5Pw9afCu4LIvd8P7Gpyr4EQ4yann6X6PTcN6chM7tQ=; b=ItTu+Zn2GJJTEJhkyO+z/v6gWQeVETVNHWZGTZFuB5K/J3tJ0rPv2OpGu0yo66/eYa XYwGfM+sJYc0d9PGsi30leRAfCmecj7Q4kgs4VEWao+H7+w1U+0jGNImrt4n9cF6rIHF Z0KuTOngW/VxBn5oIt5BLPahZCQ6E+GXxAXPqPFzsaX2NZjFOfhPok1fT+rhS5B4Yhq5 bELY+AQPsCMARRkMGkpPSq/TttDBmlVCq8vj53iNSSHVPjvTVD9xx88PSnmpMHgvtGqI elfQaGx4ou/6HCKfeROFb3Zks3aEfm+gyhUhevyMC86zUgf2hlMEIYKIrJpU1xmnwomO mBBg== X-Received: by 10.68.159.133 with SMTP id xc5mr15227922pbb.155.1364770804129; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 16:00:04 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from debian.emacs ([123.114.120.2]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i10sm11352063pbd.1.2013.03.31.16.00.01 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 31 Mar 2013 16:00:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130331220136.GA16863@saturn> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:158499 Archived-At: On Mon, 1 Apr 2013 00:01:37 +0200 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > The longevity of the project is very important. git being used for the > > kernel guarantees its healthy growth for decades to come by then a > > native version system will be built in emacs. > > Let's not muddy the water with another tool that is seemingly > > adequate. BZR was seemingly adequate and was regarded could do the > > job well. Now years later we are back to square one. > > I wish we could move directly to a tool that can serve us for a long > > time and have it stayed out of the way of hacking on emacs. > Mercurial is used for Python itself (and quite a few other large > projects), so its longevity is not really a very difficult question. > It will be here for at least as long as Python, which Bazaar also uses. But Bazaar is used for Ubuntu[1], GNU Emacs[2], CEDET[3], GNU Mailman[4], Drizzle[5], Inkscape[6], Bugzilla[7], VM[8] and many other projects. Footnotes: [1] https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu [2] http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/lh/emacs [3] http://cedet.bzr.sourceforge.net/bzr/cedet/code/trunk/changes [4] https://code.launchpad.net/mailman [5] https://code.launchpad.net/drizzle [6] https://code.launchpad.net/~inkscape.dev [7] http://bzr.mozilla.org/bugzilla/ [8] https://code.launchpad.net/vm -- Xue Fuqiao http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/