From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jorgen Schaefer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A unified project root interface Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2013 16:02:03 +0100 Message-ID: <20130316160203.6b889aba@forcix.kollektiv-hamburg.de> References: <20130309174419.6e1cadb4@forcix.kollektiv-hamburg.de> <87hakh2299.fsf@fimbulvetr.bsc.es> <513FBA1C.5040100@siege-engine.com> <87vc8vyy66.fsf@engster.org> <5143C11D.8070705@siege-engine.com> <87sj3vv35h.fsf@engster.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1363446136 20665 80.91.229.3 (16 Mar 2013 15:02:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2013 15:02:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Engster Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 16 16:02:38 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UGsd0-0003bL-NM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 Mar 2013 16:02:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57350 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UGsce-0004Pa-1J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 Mar 2013 11:02:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46616) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UGscb-0004PQ-KJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Mar 2013 11:02:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UGsca-0001LU-FF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Mar 2013 11:02:09 -0400 Original-Received: from istinn.electusmatari.com ([83.169.37.145]:56648) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UGsca-0001LJ-9B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Mar 2013 11:02:08 -0400 Original-Received: from forcix.kollektiv-hamburg.de (hmbg-4d06c444.pool.mediaWays.net [77.6.196.68]) by istinn.electusmatari.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BA603D10001E; Sat, 16 Mar 2013 16:02:05 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <87sj3vv35h.fsf@engster.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.10; i486-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 83.169.37.145 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:157903 Archived-At: On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 15:18:50 +0100 David Engster wrote: > I think we don't need another project mechanism in Emacs. EDE and > dir-locals should be enough. What we have to do however is to develop > at least one very basic project type in EDE which can be used similar > to project-root.el. Unless you create this in a way that is usable without requiring (or understanding) EDE, I fear that it will not be used by many other packages. And that's the issue I started this thread for. The issue is not that we would not have a way to define a project. We do. Dozens of them, actually. Every package has their own. It's so trivial to do for 90% of all use cases that most packages just write their own code. If we do not provide a way that is simpler to use than "I'll just quickly write my own", the original problem will not go away. No matter how much we say "but we have a solution". Regards, -- Jorgen