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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Didier Verna <didier@didierverna.net>
Cc: Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Possible defvar bug
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:09:54 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130218150954.GA4583@acm.acm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mux621pis4z.fsf@didierverna.net>

On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 04:00:28PM +0100, Didier Verna wrote:
> Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> wrote:

> > I am certain I don't understand what these paragraphs mean,
> > particularly the second one.
> > lands.

> > ,----  C-h f
> > | If SYMBOL has a local binding, then this form affects the local
> > | binding.  This is usually not what you want.  Thus, if you need to
> > | load a file defining variables, with this form or with `defconst' or
> > | `defcustom', you should always load that file _outside_ any bindings
> > | for these variables.  (`defconst' and `defcustom' behave similarly in
> > | this respect.)
> > `----

>   This means that:

> ELISP> (let ((foo 3))
> 	 (defvar foo 1)
> 	 (print foo))
> 3
> ELISP> foo
> *** Eval error ***  Symbol's value as variable is void: foo
> ELISP> 


> And, no, this is almost never what you want :-) Just like Tassilo
> noticed by accident.

Why would anybody want to defvar a variable inside a let binding which
also defines it, anyway?  It may not be totally invalid, but it's
certainly in breach of good taste.  I would argue that the current
behaviour _is_ what is wanted, since it alerts one to a probable error.

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-18 15:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-18 14:40 Possible defvar bug Tassilo Horn
2013-02-18 14:47 ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-18 14:58   ` Tassilo Horn
2013-02-18 15:00   ` Didier Verna
2013-02-18 15:09     ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2013-02-18 15:41       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2013-02-18 16:15         ` Drew Adams
2013-02-18 16:26           ` Thierry Volpiatto
2013-02-18 16:40             ` Drew Adams
2013-02-18 16:29           ` Lawrence Mitchell
2013-02-18 15:42       ` Tassilo Horn
2013-02-18 16:19       ` Didier Verna
2013-02-19  1:40 ` Glenn Morris
2013-02-19 15:25   ` Richard Stallman
2013-02-19 17:28     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-19 23:29       ` Richard Stallman
2013-02-20  0:08         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-20  8:09           ` Tassilo Horn
2013-02-20 14:05             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-20 21:36           ` Richard Stallman

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