From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xue Fuqiao Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bug#13141: please review bug #13141 Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 08:54:55 +0800 Organization: The Church of Emacs Message-ID: <20130120085455.93b0f44394a4db0ffcebd5c9@gmail.com> References: <415AF94149E240B7BCB28128E45D3135__10998.9037890502$1358637091$gmane$org@us.oracle.com> <87ip6sofn7.fsf@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1358643315 27890 80.91.229.3 (20 Jan 2013 00:55:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 00:55:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13141@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 20 01:55:33 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TwjC7-0006ec-MC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 01:55:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57300 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwjBq-0007Y8-11 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:55:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59478) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwjBn-0007Xk-8w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:55:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwjBm-000202-7C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:55:11 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com ([209.85.160.41]:63661) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwjBm-0001zl-0u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:55:10 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id xa7so2692749pbc.0 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:55:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:organization:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=DeBPNRnQEZiB3NYYErKFEQhjXjOfqkWFYZ82OjhCx3o=; b=CLY15NpPUiAAK7+BRiFBpK9roF1KTbBXzf0gtpojXrPr1I9LaxAYEETQuCpKYQFJ0C ibWlr1DAohmaE8WybNuH7TvUgxDPEsAvFeUkS+P+Xkr51S5c8giiheqPSpPjsTe37lRi OHNKD6hyYZpqSw6ZTEVVnveCy4TmJA9FCqbnABNEnbS8V/TRaxZQTyBvr4I32YuIlbs1 nxhv8esKje5Zght01DPDlrFTpjIrBNmgqIA7dmU+VymmU96q0oHbTG0zQk1jUCBrAPB5 mpdcEabpU6xUrLRWxI8Ws3VU2J42vrD7xXFyJ+uPJGOV+hLYBSu3GaidM3yt4S32GxPQ MEKw== X-Received: by 10.66.81.166 with SMTP id b6mr36438922pay.7.1358643308886; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:55:08 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Emacs ([124.117.12.115]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f5sm6271644pav.22.2013.01.19.16.54.59 (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:55:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87ip6sofn7.fsf@yandex.ru> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.2.0 (GTK+ 2.24.13; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.160.41 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:156490 Archived-At: On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 04:35:24 +0400 Dmitry Gutov wrote: > Personally, I disagree that the user should choose what information to > include. The report goes to Emacs maintainers, so they should pick the > always-useful parts (say, the version, bzr revision and build options) and > leave out the noise. In (info "(emacs) Checklist"): You may feel that some of the information inserted by `M-x report-emacs-bug' is not relevant, but unless you are absolutely sure it is best to leave it, so that the developers can decide for themselves. But *extensible and customizable* (and self-documenting) are the core of Emacs. Experienced users *know* that what information should be go to the Emacs developers. It also lightens the burden of Emacs developers. -- Best regards, Xue Fuqiao. http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/XueFuqiao