From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xue Fuqiao Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unuseful keybindings Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 06:38:37 +0800 Organization: The Church of Emacs Message-ID: <20130111063837.130bfe9a279d5d842dc3a3e5@gmail.com> References: <87sj73qzvl.fsf@gmail.com> <87623zquvw.fsf@gmail.com> <87ip7zdud3.fsf@gmail.com> <87ehiiu5x7.fsf@gnu.org> <87a9t6a435.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87d2y1glnt.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87hanbu3ly.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <877gnk26nr.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1357857540 15481 80.91.229.3 (10 Jan 2013 22:39:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 22:39:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: sds@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 10 23:39:15 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TtQmH-00035Q-KK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:39:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48693 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TtQm1-0006Dr-Qi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 17:38:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51593) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TtQlt-000689-EN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 17:38:55 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TtQlr-00061k-Ez for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 17:38:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pb0-f49.google.com ([209.85.160.49]:58828) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TtQlo-00060I-IR; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 17:38:44 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pb0-f49.google.com with SMTP id un15so565088pbc.36 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:38:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:organization:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WlJncqFohQH6k9zFZMyRUvNLYfuCddqipwXVVDiTjjs=; b=DNZ5buyCV0DV5MP3iRJaoHIeqpdaZKBOcwAYnSWchElQySRPgkKrha+9VUDVsF/Y0Y gOUYwzuaYTSEJdib7MFpW5jW4kGLMCU1gDesKGlV4vsdFxodHQOayQwzKLaGfmI8Pa7E TH6K1TFkexBL/yBAjO400PgqbBWkZRGx8wadHrvaX4A7BjBt1xJYmIq+N/gA8OJCxWX0 MVGRRWv55p9L29OTHyrIK2qSYSXK/Ti5QFAWAM8QubJgOyEraZ80QEsTc9GBe0BEszUp QbOon/0SCTvbueaGpg2+KGJHhoipqpRVe0cK+hM7Q1w4TlYfhJXMOYYT+AJZgtdAEAmU T/GA== X-Received: by 10.66.83.196 with SMTP id s4mr201610360pay.74.1357857523695; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:38:43 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Emacs ([123.114.122.106]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id zv10sm1494641pbc.76.2013.01.10.14.38.40 (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:38:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <877gnk26nr.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.2.0 (GTK+ 2.24.13; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.160.49 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:156199 Archived-At: On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:13:12 -0500 Sam Steingold wrote: > > * Juri Linkov [2012-12-24 12:29:19 +0200]: > > > > ! (define-key global-map [(meta f10)] 'toggle-frame-maximized) > > this is no good. > M-f10 is bound by ubuntu/unity by default, so it is not available to > Emacs unless the user takes a non-trivial action. There are _many_ Emacs users, some of them use GNU, some of them use FreeBSD, some of them use Solaris, and some of them use MS-Windows... Unity users can modify the key bindings as they wish. And function keys are reserved for users and packages. -- Best regards, Xue Fuqiao. http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/XueFuqiao