From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xue Fuqiao Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: package.el + DVCS for security and convenience Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 22:05:31 +0800 Organization: The Church of Emacs Message-ID: <20130108220531.4696f38aa0716df0baa92262@gmail.com> References: <8738zf70ep.fsf@riseup.net> <871uejlbm1.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87obhmzl2f.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <20121222141742.7494b429fe36e5ccef50cf6f@gmail.com> <87d2y2w9j5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87wqwas0gr.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87d2y2p6d7.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87sj6xg9p2.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <87k3s78hsc.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ehi65uv4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87hamxndc7.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87y5g8n4y1.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87lic8b9ai.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87zk0mktir.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87bod1bvhg.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <877gnpkq1u.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87wqvoa00v.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1357653959 30919 80.91.229.3 (8 Jan 2013 14:05:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 14:05:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 08 15:06:16 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TsZol-0004zc-W9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 15:06:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39917 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TsZoW-0006uv-0L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 09:06:00 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56542) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TsZoR-0006tf-Ky for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 09:05:57 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TsZoQ-00078d-4Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 09:05:55 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pb0-f45.google.com ([209.85.160.45]:63075) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TsZoP-00078G-U9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 09:05:54 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pb0-f45.google.com with SMTP id mc8so265702pbc.4 for ; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 06:05:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:organization:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=dgo8FDWuQgMZ29Mcjeu6NoLZmUDrHTlnBxgV4h9xeGU=; b=otN4AouEBNuzHov27SFyVm05Gnapep/wDPcJNsLc3FPPtwsJ6mCBVCkPZ2C/ggM2Ru KHauXaAI0yQTxrYeN8guLIVcKUHkd27AKGT5NnpGAje/dnZGjpSr7W1ajZtZP5nxrX2D d6SRFGNMrWD8xLq/IRj6UY2M1NlnavaH6e5M8RGUnxVvGvbWKUGDCWEUDBnpg1oSXR2l wUyfqUCZuFdma4pYjaNPDHhKXv7ZgZpW3H/C55OVDyemvAp8LoXQ8cJepxYQI4ufY6GD aVFYCcpMmAggxSK2lhA+XfHfHE5T3Dt8bXRZKkxfa9xEb5WRl7jZWptB/UmsWD7y6p1S afGQ== X-Received: by 10.68.224.130 with SMTP id rc2mr10199223pbc.156.1357653951659; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 06:05:51 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Emacs ([123.114.121.37]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id is3sm39701354pbc.6.2013.01.08.06.05.38 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 08 Jan 2013 06:05:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87wqvoa00v.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.2.0 (GTK+ 2.24.13; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.160.45 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:156139 Archived-At: On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 11:20:16 +0900 "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: > 0. Emacs should do something about this, and soon. > > Rationale: As somebody posted earlier [my apologies for failure to > cite correctly], it's important to do something as soon as > possible, because resistance to bureacracy etc builds up fast. > > 1. Mission creep should be avoided. > > Rationale: For the same reason, it's important to do what you do > right the first time. Resistance to change builds up quickly, and > is stronger if the original effort was not very successful. I agree, these two are very important. -- Best regards, Xue Fuqiao. http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/XueFuqiao