From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xue Fuqiao Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unuseful keybindings Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 13:09:58 +0800 Organization: The Church of Emacs Message-ID: <20121222130958.43a9e5aa5fed2073443b64f0@gmail.com> References: <87sj73qzvl.fsf@gmail.com> <87623zquvw.fsf@gmail.com> <87ip7zdud3.fsf@gmail.com> <87ehiiu5x7.fsf@gnu.org> <876A7D1112084247AE53F7EE42B4587C@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1356153028 22802 80.91.229.3 (22 Dec 2012 05:10:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 05:10:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Mathias Dahl' , emacs-devel@gnu.org, 'Chong Yidong' , 'Andreas Schwab' , 'Thierry Volpiatto' To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 22 06:10:42 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TmHMA-0006w3-AJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 06:10:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51841 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TmHLv-0002aO-T0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 00:10:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58710) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TmHLq-0002aJ-Me for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 00:10:26 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TmHLn-0004N2-Bz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 00:10:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-da0-f44.google.com ([209.85.210.44]:63868) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TmHLh-0004KR-4k; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 00:10:13 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-da0-f44.google.com with SMTP id z20so2391230dae.3 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 21:10:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:organization:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3z83XRgxV0vhsHqNYAtyfDaEMI8oUDP7ERKHCeDP0Sk=; b=zL39MADaa+Ic42rSrF4dCc2Q57zX61gke9AFqNlCGrHrI7UYSme4HBSnOYzV08EZa2 p8/+ZL0+5Gdw7wABw1D62RpP3W4tHV4YELm+bxPAUJuuAibhpwAE/0eqJGrllgL8KruX ci+6q9+QoRBssx94JxJC6rqEfjoWXjgxpCFUcWTii6N6lQNASzJZHISvfAE2StGGy0/f qmoe+2xRHJTWtbxtwimKJS/gyfmOV6FcoXTkvbG4poVizaUU0tUwgZWlYk1Lzqx9mX1m N1ogfLg3JAykGclR6BL1svvhLd2F72Gc7m6WpGklne7sAFBOCZmqy8LncXZ35vtt080M guyw== X-Received: by 10.68.131.8 with SMTP id oi8mr45931755pbb.29.1356153012340; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 21:10:12 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Emacs ([61.149.230.231]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ug6sm8193967pbc.4.2012.12.21.21.10.04 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 21 Dec 2012 21:10:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <876A7D1112084247AE53F7EE42B4587C@us.oracle.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.2.0 (GTK+ 2.24.13; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.210.44 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:155749 Archived-At: On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 20:39:01 -0800 "Drew Adams" wrote: > So what? Many applications are not Emacs. I agree. If new users wanted everything to be the same as elsewhere, they would not try Emacs in the first place. > Emacs can be better than standard; it has always been so. That's true. This "problem" is somewhat like CUA mode and transient-mark-mode. -- Best regards, Xue Fuqiao. http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/XueFuqiao