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From: SAKURAI Masashi <m.sakurai@kiwanami.net>
To: jwiegley@gmail.com
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: async.el: A simple asynchronous framework for Emacs
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 18:32:06 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120620093232.E729C13D2B1@vps1.kiwanami.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2txy6tn8t.fsf@gmail.com>

At Wed, 20 Jun 2012 03:13:06 -0500,
John Wiegley wrote:
> :
> Looking further, I see that deferred.el and async.el address slightly
> different problem domains.  For example, `async-start' creates another Emacs
> in which to call the lambda, while deferred.el put the lambda on a timer and
> runs it in the parent Emacs.  This means that if it's a heavy internal
> function -- like a `copy-file' of 10 gigabytes -- it will still block Emacs,
> am I right?

Yes, you are right.
A heavy task should be breaked down into small tasks in the deferred.el manner.

deferred.el just supports job controlling on the Emacs and avoiding callback hell.
Changing notation for async tasks, the async tasks becomes composable.
I think the callback style (CPS) is difficult to write and read.

> async.el does not use timers, though it seems that `deferred:process' does,
> even though it also uses process sentinels.  Am I reading that correctly?

Yes.
deferred.el uses `run-at-time` function as a simple job scheduing.
In my experience, I think that the overhead is small enough.
I feel the blocking whole Emacs is more inconvenient.

--
SAKURAI, Masashi (family, given)
m.sakurai@kiwanami.net



  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-06-20  9:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-19  2:51 async.el: A simple asynchronous framework for Emacs John Wiegley
2012-06-19  5:11 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2012-06-19  5:36   ` John Wiegley
2012-06-19 13:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-06-19 20:44   ` John Wiegley
2012-06-19 21:46     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-06-20  0:20       ` John Wiegley
2012-06-20  0:53         ` John Wiegley
2012-06-20  5:34       ` John Wiegley
2012-06-20  7:24         ` SAKURAI Masashi
2012-06-20  7:52           ` John Wiegley
2012-06-20  8:13             ` John Wiegley
2012-06-20  8:24               ` John Wiegley
2012-06-20  9:32               ` SAKURAI Masashi [this message]
2012-06-20 20:36         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2012-06-20 23:52           ` John Wiegley
2012-06-21 13:17             ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2012-06-22 16:01               ` Le Wang
2012-06-22 20:07                 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2012-06-24  9:30                   ` Chong Yidong
2012-06-19 21:38 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2012-06-21  8:31 ` Thierry Volpiatto
     [not found]   ` <m2lijg8ibx.fsf@vulcan.local.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me>
     [not found]     ` <87a9zv1fw4.fsf@gmail.com>
     [not found]       ` <m2ehp73t8o.fsf@vulcan.local.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me>
     [not found]         ` <871ul63yky.fsf@gmail.com>
     [not found]           ` <m2zk7tzr5e.fsf@vulcan.local.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me>
     [not found]             ` <87395lyam9.fsf@gmail.com>
2012-06-26  0:05               ` John Wiegley
2012-06-26  9:41                 ` Thierry Volpiatto

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