From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated] Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 11:56:36 +0000 Message-ID: <20120122115636.GB3042@acm.acm> References: <4F18A26A.1020402@cs.ucla.edu> <20120120074922.GA3095@acm.acm> <4F1929BA.7020004@cs.ucla.edu> <838vl24thl.fsf@gnu.org> <4F19E7FC.40301@cs.ucla.edu> <83zkdh2zfz.fsf@gnu.org> <4F1BC64D.7080906@cs.ucla.edu> <87k44k5bb0.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <4F1BEAF7.8010003@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1327233412 30188 80.91.229.12 (22 Jan 2012 11:56:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 11:56:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, ulm@gentoo.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Eli Zaretskii , drew.adams@oracle.com To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 22 12:56:47 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Row2R-0007rx-6R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:56:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45752 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Row2Q-0002Cv-Io for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 06:56:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:53736) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Row2N-0002Cf-J3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 06:56:44 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Row2M-0000F1-JY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 06:56:43 -0500 Original-Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:38373 helo=mail.muc.de) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Row2M-0000Et-Ad for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 06:56:42 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 42416 invoked by uid 3782); 22 Jan 2012 11:56:41 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (pD9557632.dip.t-dialin.net [217.85.118.50]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:56:27 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 17997 invoked by uid 1000); 22 Jan 2012 11:56:36 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4F1BEAF7.8010003@cs.ucla.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 193.149.48.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147833 Archived-At: Hello, Paul. On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 02:54:47AM -0800, Paul Eggert wrote: > On 01/22/2012 01:36 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > I don't have it on either my Gentoo system or my Debian(!) system > It's from a Debian package, introduced in lenny (Debian GNU/Linux 5.0), > which was released about three years ago. Here's a URL: > http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/console-setup > It's a GPLed shell script and is not that complicated -- it's a front > end to help out people who don't want to understand Linux consoles > (not that I blame them!). > If you don't have setupcon, you can try this recipe instead, as its > last two commands are what setupcon does, as far as fonts go: > export LC_ALL=en_US.utf8 > printf '\033%%G' > setfont -v /usr/share/consolefonts/Uni2-Fixed16.psf.gz > On 01/22/2012 02:22 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > Maybe you could give a run through of a hypothetical sequence of steps a > > tty user would go through to find out how to set up his console for this > Do you have setfont? If so, do the above commands work? > I'll attach a copy of the psf.gz file. (You can get its source from > the above URL.) Yes, the setfont command above did indeed work. Presumably there will be several such fonts corresponding with the different ascii/Latin-1 fonts. For some reason, I didn't have that font in my /usr/share/consolefonts. > > it will be very strenuous for a normal tty user to get set up > > to see these curly quotes. > OK, but we're not talking about normal tty users. We're talking about the > three Emacs developers who use Linux consoles to develop. If we can > get a recipe working for them, then we've handled that problem. Are we? I think I've lost track of this discussion. I thought we were talking about putting curly quotes into doc strings, etc, where ordinary users are going to have to deal with them. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).