From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: ulm@gentoo.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, drew.adams@oracle.com,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated]
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:12:38 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120121111238.GA2747@acm.acm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83sjj92vsi.fsf@gnu.org>
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 12:29:33PM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 08:59:05 +0000
> > Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, ulm@gentoo.org, drew.adams@oracle.com,
> > emacs-devel@gnu.org
> > From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
> > Sorry, but that's a philosophical point that cannot pass without
> > challenge. Because fewer people are using tty environments (which is
> > basically what is meant here by "ASCII-only") is it really "less
> > important" to support them? Or is there some other reason?
> > There are at least three Emacs developers who use a tty rather than a
> > GUI. There are users who do the same. (Why use a GUI for pure text
> > work, indeed?) To adapt a tty for random Unicode characters is a
> > non-trivial amount of work.
> TTY != pure-ASCII.
Yes, OK. But they share some of the problems WRT curly quote marks.
> What kind of TTY do you use that needs a "non-trivial amount of work"
> to support non-ASCII characters? And what that is the work which
> needs to be done for that?
I have an ordinary Linux tty, currently running a Latin-1 character set.
I'd need somehow to arrange for the quotes to be added to that set. I
don't know of any character set which includes both of these (I've had a
look through /usr/share/consolefonts/). I don't know how to do this,
and finding out is going to be a lot of work.
Also, there's the issue of adapting the keyboard to support the new
characters. I know how to do this, so it's no big deal for me. But for
the vast majority of tty users, I'd guess this is another research
project.
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-01-21 11:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-01-18 15:12 TUTORIAL.de updated Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-19 9:09 ` Martin
2012-01-19 9:37 ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-19 12:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-19 13:02 ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-19 14:55 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-19 16:24 ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-19 17:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-20 5:00 ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-20 6:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-19 15:52 ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-01-19 16:20 ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-19 16:41 ` quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated] Glenn Morris
2012-01-19 17:22 ` Drew Adams
2012-01-19 23:08 ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-20 3:02 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-20 6:23 ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-20 6:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-20 7:49 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-01-20 8:45 ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-20 9:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-20 22:17 ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-21 8:59 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-01-21 10:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-21 11:12 ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2012-01-21 11:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-21 12:52 ` Andreas Schwab
2012-01-22 3:27 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2012-01-22 3:32 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2012-01-22 6:30 ` Richard Stallman
2012-01-22 8:00 ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-22 10:22 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-01-22 13:06 ` James Cloos
2012-01-21 9:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-22 6:30 ` Richard Stallman
2012-01-22 8:18 ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-22 9:36 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-22 10:24 ` Teemu Likonen
2012-01-22 10:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-22 10:54 ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-22 11:56 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-01-22 20:35 ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-22 15:35 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-22 16:33 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-01-23 7:04 ` Richard Stallman
2012-01-20 12:13 ` quotation marks Ulrich Mueller
2012-01-20 12:44 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-20 15:51 ` Drew Adams
2012-01-20 18:40 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-20 12:01 ` quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated] James Cloos
2012-01-22 15:03 ` Richard Stallman
2012-01-20 14:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-01-20 22:34 ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-21 1:13 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-21 1:26 ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-21 6:10 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-21 8:37 ` Andreas Schwab
2012-01-21 18:13 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-21 19:58 ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-21 17:17 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-21 17:19 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-19 18:14 ` TUTORIAL.de updated Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-19 18:50 ` quotation marks (was: Re: TUTORIAL.de updated) Ulrich Mueller
2012-01-19 21:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
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