From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Joe Brenner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: long-standing set-up errors on upgrade (elimination of x cut buffers) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 15:39:50 -0700 Message-ID: <201009192239.o8JMdoW6096410@kzsu.stanford.edu> References: <201009150110.o8F1AQGX093877@kzsu.stanford.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1284936007 8893 80.91.229.12 (19 Sep 2010 22:40:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 22:40:07 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 20 00:40:05 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OxSYH-0002BS-HW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 00:40:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48456 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OxSYG-0004zR-TR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 18:40:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=54885 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OxSY9-0004ys-1c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 18:39:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OxSY4-0003Zq-7q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 18:39:56 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp4.stanford.edu ([171.67.219.84]:60515 helo=smtp.stanford.edu) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OxSY3-0003Zf-Um for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 18:39:52 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp.stanford.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 00B8DCA9A for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 15:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from kzsu.stanford.edu (KZSU-legacy.Stanford.EDU [171.66.118.90]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.stanford.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C91CCA19 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 15:39:50 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from kzsu.stanford.edu (localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by kzsu.stanford.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8JMdoW6096410 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 15:39:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doom@kzsu.stanford.edu) In-reply-to: Comments: In-reply-to Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen message dated "Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:49:29 +0200." X-Mailer: MH-E 8.2; nmh 1.2; GNU Emacs 24.0.50 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:130508 Archived-At: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Joe Brenner writes: > > > (Of late, the gnus emacs team seems to be having trouble with the idea > > of stable interfaces.) > > Do you have anything in particular in mind? I could name a few things. One example I'm not sure about any more: I could swear emacs had suddenly switched to "typing-replaces-selection" behavior (standard on post-Macintosh interfaces perhaps, but never in emacs). Now I don't think I'm seeing that behavior any more. There was some discussion on usenet recently about subtle changes to the behavior of next-line. One that's been a minor annoyance to me is that repeated C-l's are no longer a no-op, but flip the display around in a new way that took some getting used to.