From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs learning curve Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 12:39:04 +0200 Message-ID: <201007161239.04771.tassilo@member.fsf.org> References: <4C3B6A8A.80105@gmx.de> <83sk3kg3fj.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1279276761 29476 80.91.229.12 (16 Jul 2010 10:39:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:39:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Uday S Reddy To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 16 12:39:20 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZiK7-0005hj-2B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 12:39:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39568 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OZiK6-0000WN-E2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 06:39:18 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=35267 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OZiJy-0000Vn-UI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 06:39:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZiJx-0004z2-OW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 06:39:10 -0400 Original-Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]:51987) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZiJx-0004yt-JV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 06:39:09 -0400 Original-Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by gateway1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4586216F24F; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 06:39:07 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 16 Jul 2010 06:39:07 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=messagingengine.com; h=from:to:subject:date:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; s=smtpout; bh=dC36c13UbeD2FJuKFwU0v2798kM=; b=onYmSpG87zb2xBxcOoTNnGjOMt70RT3rlAQalaBuEoxmRs3O7mywj7agFrTf9EzlWhtAE+PM0nkkB5ti2owABotrE0Ly/Lcn2ZtXWCQ83GZWJD++Fmd98MoJSeSzMT0jbR3JbjXKUXkqzU0s1f+AhSbA213YS2/hKjq0EhQxXpU= X-Sasl-enc: 8ebkYo2CuaIDW32ZF7avw9yEwLbs0MTy55qsGKHlf7ws 1279276746 Original-Received: from thinkpad.localnet (p54AF1F70.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.175.31.112]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E1E02727A7; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 06:39:06 -0400 (EDT) User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.35-rc5-git1; KDE/4.4.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: X-Face: `TY6r/ws=N5uqO1E`M=Sups<}n%T[E^o_?MJj List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:127424 Archived-At: On Friday 16 July 2010 11:15:37 Uday S Reddy wrote: > I don't switch to new applications if their key bindings conflict with > my Emacs neurons. When I tried Eclipse, I quickly found the option to > set Emacs key bindings and turned them on. That's what I do, too, but it doesn't help much. I frequently find myself hitting `C-y M-y' in Eclipse to paste text that I have cut before the last cut. But then I have to face the fact that cut&paste is not kill&yank... Remapping keys doesn't help much if the underlying concepts aren't the same. Bye, Tassilo