From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Efforts to attract more users? Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 15:01:42 +0000 Message-ID: <20100711150142.GB3134@muc.de> References: <87630m1vnz.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87r5jaywvt.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87lj9iyv98.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <83bpaeumdx.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1278861471 13850 80.91.229.12 (11 Jul 2010 15:17:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 15:17:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: fplemma@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, Lennart Borgman , joakim@verona.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 11 17:17:48 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXyHs-0002EZ-Ep for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2010 17:17:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42441 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OXyHr-0006RH-Pa for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2010 11:17:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=47804 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OXyHl-0006R5-Kn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2010 11:17:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXyHk-0003jR-85 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2010 11:17:41 -0400 Original-Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:3477 helo=mail.muc.de) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXyHj-0003j7-QN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2010 11:17:40 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 26263 invoked by uid 3782); 11 Jul 2010 14:50:57 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (pD9E5395F.dip.t-dialin.net [217.229.57.95]) by colin2.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Sun, 11 Jul 2010 16:50:55 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 7214 invoked by uid 1000); 11 Jul 2010 15:01:42 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83bpaeumdx.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.5 (Fettercairn) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.6-4.9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:127052 Archived-At: On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 05:24:42PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Lennart Borgman > > Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 16:13:38 +0200 > > Cc: fplemma@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, joakim@verona.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Miles Bader wrote: > > > Lennart Borgman writes: > > >>> But wxwidgets is ancient, clunky, and bloated, and not something Emacs > > >>> should be depending on lightly. > > >> I will not pretend to know anything about it but the latest release is > > >> from 2010-04-23. > > > I don't mean it's not maintained. > > No I am getting curious. You obviously know more than me about this. > > Why do you say wxWidget is ancient? (This is a little bit funny to use > > the word "ancient" here when Emacs is so old ;-) > > I know people have had negative opinions about it here before. It > > looked to me some of it was based on experience, but I am not sure. > According to their docs, wxWidgets is for C++, not for C, so Emacs > cannot use it. In that case, couldn't we just convert our base code to C++, then we could use wxWidgets. (Hey, it's over 35 degrees (of the Celsius variety) here in Nuremberg; this doesn't encourage high quality hacking. I'm kind of wondering how far over Europe this blanket of smothering heat extends.) -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).