From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: tomas@tuxteam.de Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Embedding SQLite Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 07:39:25 +0200 Message-ID: <20100418053925.GA7294@tomas> References: <87sk6tonv8.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1271568839 9451 80.91.229.12 (18 Apr 2010 05:33:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 05:33:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Deniz Dogan , John Wiegley , Florian Weimer , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 18 07:33:56 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O3N8l-0000Do-3q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 18 Apr 2010 07:33:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42016 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O3N8k-0007wM-Hy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 18 Apr 2010 01:33:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1O3N8B-0007nU-Cy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Apr 2010 01:33:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=43373 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O3N89-0007mI-4X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Apr 2010 01:33:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O3N87-0003HL-Ep for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Apr 2010 01:33:16 -0400 Original-Received: from alextrapp1.equinoxe.de ([217.22.192.104]:57125 helo=www.elogos.de) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O3N87-0003HB-93 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Apr 2010 01:33:15 -0400 Original-Received: by www.elogos.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3DB7590069; Sun, 18 Apr 2010 07:39:25 +0200 (CEST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15+20070412 (2007-04-11) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:123830 Archived-At: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 05:52:23AM +0200, Juanma Barranquero wrote: > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 05:21, John Wiegley wrote: >=20 > > Also, if we use dynamic loading and then a user doesn't have it, now > > they can't use a Lisp module -- something which has never been true b= efore. >=20 > There are lots of image types that you cannot display if you don't > have the libraries (which, on Windows, are dynamically loaded). How is > that different? And how is that different of the packages that require > external programs? I must second John's concern here. This increasing dependency on external libraries (which is set at build time!) tends to become a nuisance in binary distributions. For example, in Debian, Emacs already pulls in libdbus. Now libselinux is on the horizon. Then it's sqlite. I'd fear it won't scale. For me the solution will be to compile Emacs from source, but that isn't = a solution for everybody. I haven't got a good idea either. Maybe the problem is in binary distributions themselves. Regards - -- tom=C3=A1s -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFLypsKBcgs9XrR2kYRAo+JAJwJrkgEuGnG3a/PVEiDzZ8w+xzMJwCfWtup QFWki5gXavgopor4DyI1Hvs=3D =3DQKU4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----