Emacs 23.1.94 pretest

Emacs 23.1.94 pretest

[Chong Yidong]

Emacs pretest 23.1.94 is now available for download via FTP, at the
following location:

  ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-23.1.94.tar.gz

The xdelta against the Emacs 23.1.93 pretest is here:

  ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-23.1.93-23.1.94.xdelta

This is the fifth pretest for what will be the Emacs 23.2 release.

Thanks.

Re: Emacs 23.1.94 pretest

[Tak Ota]

Some Japanese characters don't render correctly.  One such example
character is the middle letter in the word game "ゲーム".  Another one
I found is the dot character here between 1 and 2 "１・２".

It is tested on GNU Emacs 23.1.94.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7600) running on
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600).  This problem is not
new and has been observed for some time.

-Tak

Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:57:54 -0800: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> wrote:

> Emacs pretest 23.1.94 is now available for download via FTP, at the
> following location:
> 
>   ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-23.1.94.tar.gz
> 
> The xdelta against the Emacs 23.1.93 pretest is here:
> 
>   ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-23.1.93-23.1.94.xdelta
> 
> This is the fifth pretest for what will be the Emacs 23.2 release.
> 
> Thanks.
> 

Re: Emacs 23.1.94 pretest

[Chong Yidong]

Tak Ota <Takaaki.Ota@am.sony.com> writes:

> Some Japanese characters don't render correctly.  One such example
> character is the middle letter in the word game "ゲーム".  Another one
> I found is the dot character here between 1 and 2 "１・２".
>
> It is tested on GNU Emacs 23.1.94.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7600) running on
> Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600).  This problem is not
> new and has been observed for some time.

Did this problem occur in Emacs 23.1 as well?

Re: Emacs 23.1.94 pretest

[Tak Ota]

Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:26:11 -0800: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> wrote:

> Tak Ota <Takaaki.Ota@am.sony.com> writes:
> 
> > Some Japanese characters don't render correctly.  One such example
> > character is the middle letter in the word game "ゲーム".  Another one
> > I found is the dot character here between 1 and 2 "１・２".
> >
> > It is tested on GNU Emacs 23.1.94.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7600) running on
> > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600).  This problem is not
> > new and has been observed for some time.
> 
> Did this problem occur in Emacs 23.1 as well?

Yes.

-Tak

Re: Emacs 23.1.94 pretest

[Jason Rumney]

On 12/03/2010 07:25, Tak Ota wrote:
> Some Japanese characters don't render correctly.  One such example
> character is the middle letter in the word game "ゲーム".  Another one
> I found is the dot character here between 1 and 2 "１・２".
>   

What does C-u C-x = say about those characters?

Re: Emacs 23.1.94 pretest

[Daichi UEURA]

I confirmed the behavior which you reported with using the same environment.
However I think it depends on what kind of font your Emacs uses.

Please try the following setting. Japanese characters render correctly.

(set-default-font "MS Gothic 10")

BR/Daichi

>/ Tak Ota <address@hidden> writes:/
>/ /
>/ > Some Japanese characters don't render correctly.  One such example/
>/ > character is the middle letter in the word game "ゲーム".  Another one/
>/ > I found is the dot character here between 1 and 2 "１・２"./
>/ >/
>/ > It is tested on GNU Emacs 23.1.94.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7600) running on/
>/ > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600).  This problem is not/
>/ > new and has been observed for some time./

Re: Emacs 23.1.94 pretest

[Tak Ota]

Changing the default font indeed corrects the font rendering problem.
However, out of the box emacs should not show this problem to an
ordinary users who don't even know how the existence of .emacs file.
So let's fix it.  We need Windoze experts' (I am not) insight to this.

-Tak

Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:57:59 -0800: Daichi UEURA <daichi@lifeflow.jp> wrote:

> I confirmed the behavior which you reported with using the same environment.
> However I think it depends on what kind of font your Emacs uses.
> 
> Please try the following setting. Japanese characters render correctly.
> 
> (set-default-font "MS Gothic 10")
> 
> BR/Daichi
> 
> >/ Tak Ota <address@hidden> writes:/
> >/ /
> >/ > Some Japanese characters don't render correctly.  One such example/
> >/ > character is the middle letter in the word game "ゲーム".  Another one/
> >/ > I found is the dot character here between 1 and 2 "１・２"./
> >/ >/
> >/ > It is tested on GNU Emacs 23.1.94.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7600) running on/
> >/ > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600).  This problem is not/
> >/ > new and has been observed for some time./
> 
> 

Re: Emacs 23.1.94 pretest

[Daichi UEURA]

(2010/03/13 4:04), Tak Ota wrote:
> Changing the default font indeed corrects the font rendering problem.
> However, out of the box emacs should not show this problem to an
> ordinary users who don't even know how the existence of .emacs file.
> So let's fix it.  We need Windoze experts' (I am not) insight to this.
> 
> -Tak
Certainly emacs with default setting (e.g. "runemacs.exe -q") should
show any Japanese characters correctly. I agree with your opinion.

BR/Daichi

Re: Emacs 23.1.94 pretest

[Tak Ota]

Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:40:08 -0800: Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org> wrote:

> 
> On 12/03/2010 07:25, Tak Ota wrote:
> > Some Japanese characters don't render correctly.  One such example
> > character is the middle letter in the word game "ゲーム".  Another one
> > I found is the dot character here between 1 and 2 "１・２".
> >   
> 
> What does C-u C-x = say about those characters?
> 

Following are the results for each character respectively.

-Tak

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
        character: ー (12540, #o30374, #x30fc)
preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646))
       code point: 0x30FC
           syntax: w 	which means: word
         category:
		   .:Base, H:2-byte Hiragana, K:2-byte Katakana, j:Japanese, |:line breakable
      buffer code: #xE3 #x83 #xBC
        file code: not encodable by coding system iso-latin-1-dos
          display: no font available

Character code properties: customize what to show
  name: KATAKANA-HIRAGANA PROLONGED SOUND MARK
  general-category: Lm (Letter, Modifier)


---------------------------------------------------------------------------
        character: ・ (12539, #o30373, #x30fb)
preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646))
       code point: 0x30FB
           syntax: _ 	which means: symbol
         category:
		   .:Base, K:2-byte Katakana, c:Chinese, j:Japanese, |:line breakable
      buffer code: #xE3 #x83 #xBB
        file code: not encodable by coding system iso-latin-1-dos
          display: no font available

Character code properties: customize what to show
  name: KATAKANA MIDDLE DOT
  general-category: Po (Punctuation, Other)

Re: Emacs 23.1.94 pretest

[Tak Ota]

This previously reported problem is still resent in the pretest GNU
Emacs 23.1.96.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7600) running on Windoze 7.

-Tak

Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:25:37 -0800: Tak Ota <Takaaki.Ota@am.sony.com> wrote:

> Some Japanese characters don't render correctly.  One such example
> character is the middle letter in the word game "ゲーム".  Another one
> I found is the dot character here between 1 and 2 "１・２".
> 
> It is tested on GNU Emacs 23.1.94.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7600) running on
> Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600).  This problem is not
> new and has been observed for some time.
> 
> -Tak
> 
> Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:57:54 -0800: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> wrote:
> 
> > Emacs pretest 23.1.94 is now available for download via FTP, at the
> > following location:
> > 
> >   ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-23.1.94.tar.gz
> > 
> > The xdelta against the Emacs 23.1.93 pretest is here:
> > 
> >   ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-23.1.93-23.1.94.xdelta
> > 
> > This is the fifth pretest for what will be the Emacs 23.2 release.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 

Re: Emacs 23.1.94 pretest

[Glenn Morris]

Tak Ota wrote:

> This previously reported problem is still resent in the pretest GNU
> Emacs 23.1.96.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7600) running on Windoze 7.

Please, file a bug report with as much detail as you can provide.
This applies to any problem you encounter, and helps ensure they don't
get overlooked.

>> Some Japanese characters don't render correctly.  One such example
>> character is the middle letter in the word game "ゲーム".  Another one
>> I found is the dot character here between 1 and 2 "１・２".
>> 
>> It is tested on GNU Emacs 23.1.94.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7600) running on
>> Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600).  This problem is not
>> new and has been observed for some time.