From: Marek Aaron Sapota <maarons@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Gentoo GNU/Linux and non-free packages
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 19:06:22 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100108000622.GA1426@fencepost.localnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1NT1AH-00015Q-TP@fencepost.gnu.org>
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On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 05:49:13PM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote:
> Well, that hardly qualifies as an still standing argument. As soon as
> the new package manager version is stable, it's only a matter of what
> defaults the Gentoo devs choose as acceptable licenses. I guess, they
> will choose only FSF and OSI approved licenses.
>
> Are you saying that the Gentoo developers might soon delete all the
> ports for non-free programs from Gentoo? That could make it a 100%
> free distro, and we might be able to endorse it. (We would have to
> check for blobs in their version of Linux.)
Gentoo devs have already chosen - by default it is everything that
doesn't require explicit agreement from user and this aren't only FSF
and OSI approved licenses. As reference:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152593
It is possible to use only Free Software with Gentoo but it isn't that
easy:
- packages have non-free dependences, sometimes programs compile fine
without them, but they are pulled in anyway
- some free "alternatives" are only in additional repositories
- predefined license groups (for example FSF approved) are not complete
- some packages have wrong licenses (usually license is named after the
package even if it really is for example GPL)
Gentoo isn't even close to being a Free Distribution in FSF sense, I
have no idea why some people treat it as such.
Happy hacking
Marek Aaron Sapota
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Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-28 17:04 'bzr init-repo .' crashes for lack of module bz2. Help, please! Alan Mackenzie
2009-12-28 21:14 ` Karl Fogel
2009-12-28 23:05 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-12-29 20:08 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-12-29 20:19 ` Andreas Schwab
2009-12-29 20:57 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-12-29 23:49 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-12-31 12:06 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-12-31 17:04 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-01-03 17:33 ` Alan Mackenzie
2010-01-03 18:16 ` Tassilo Horn
2010-01-03 21:56 ` Alan Mackenzie
2010-01-04 0:06 ` Miles Bader
2010-01-04 0:13 ` Jason Rumney
2010-01-06 13:30 ` Alan Mackenzie
2010-01-04 8:16 ` Tassilo Horn
2010-01-04 16:23 ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-04 20:42 ` Gentoo GNU/Linux and non-free packages (was: 'bzr init-repo .' crashes for lack of module bz2. Help, please!) Tassilo Horn
2010-01-05 9:03 ` Gentoo GNU/Linux and non-free packages Ulrich Mueller
2010-01-05 20:45 ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-05 20:45 ` Gentoo GNU/Linux and non-free packages (was: 'bzr init-repo .' crashes for lack of module bz2. Help, please!) Richard Stallman
2010-01-06 0:10 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-01-06 20:45 ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-07 8:35 ` Gentoo GNU/Linux and non-free packages Tassilo Horn
2010-01-07 22:49 ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-08 0:06 ` Marek Aaron Sapota [this message]
2010-01-08 9:30 ` Tassilo Horn
2010-01-08 11:20 ` Marek Aaron Sapota
[not found] ` <20100108111454.GC1426@fencepost.localnet>
2010-01-08 11:56 ` Tassilo Horn
2010-01-08 12:44 ` Marek Aaron Sapota
2010-01-08 14:44 ` Tassilo Horn
2010-01-08 15:47 ` Marek Aaron Sapota
2010-01-08 15:23 ` Yavor Doganov
2010-01-08 15:57 ` Marek Aaron Sapota
2010-01-08 16:23 ` Tassilo Horn
2010-01-08 16:46 ` David Kastrup
2010-01-08 8:56 ` Tassilo Horn
2010-01-08 23:01 ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-06 7:35 ` Tassilo Horn
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