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From: Dan Nicolaescu <dann@ics.uci.edu>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: "Tobias C. Rittweiler" <tcr@freebits.de>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: t and nil in pure memory?
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:24:05 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200911130524.nAD5O5uu009102@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv7htvixhg.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:22:05 -0500")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

  > >> > The last GC before dumping generates 200K calls to mark_object, of those
  > >> > 20K have Qt or Qnil as an argument.
  > >> 
  > >> > Would it make sense to put Qt and Qnil in pure memory?
  > >> 
  > >> No, because they may contain pointers to objects that aren't in pure
  > >> memory (via the plist).
  > 
  > > In principle, you could scratch the plist slot from symbols themselves,
  > > and instead make `symbol-plist' go over an EQ hash-table. (Such
  > > externalizing of the symbol plist may make more sense in other dialects
  > > of Lisp where the plist is used less often than in Elisp -- even though
  > > I'm not aware of any implementation which does.)
  > 
  > Actually, it's even worse than that: (interned) symbols have a `next'
  > field which points to the next symbol in the obarray (hash) bucket.
  > So that's yet another reason why (pure)symbols can have pointers to non
  > pure memory.

Can't the next pointers could be NULL.
Is the next pointer used for anything else other than GC?
Because if it's not, then it seems that if the next pointer was stored
in the obarray the cache footprint of a Lisp_Symbol would be smaller.




  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-13  5:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-11 20:23 t and nil in pure memory? Dan Nicolaescu
2009-11-11 22:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-12  8:21   ` Tobias C. Rittweiler
2009-11-12 15:22     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-13  5:24       ` Dan Nicolaescu [this message]
2009-11-13 14:39         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-14 11:23           ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-15 20:25           ` David Kastrup
2009-11-16  1:26             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-16  8:24               ` David Kastrup
2009-11-17  7:57                 ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-17 13:16                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-17 13:55                     ` David Kastrup
2009-11-18 12:11                     ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-18 15:52                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-18 17:53                         ` Daniel Colascione
2009-11-18 18:19                           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-19 16:23                         ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-19 20:08                           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-20  4:12                             ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-20  5:47                               ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-22  6:48                                 ` Sam Steingold
2009-11-22  8:14                                   ` David Kastrup
2009-11-19 21:05                           ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-11-15 21:08           ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-11-16  1:34             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-18 18:53               ` Ken Raeburn
2009-11-18 19:03                 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-11-18 19:18                   ` Tom Tromey
2009-11-18 19:13                 ` Tom Tromey
2009-11-23  3:05                   ` Ken Raeburn
2009-11-23  5:31                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-24 16:03                       ` Ken Raeburn
2009-11-24 16:28                         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-19  1:01                 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-12  4:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-13  4:55   ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-13  8:37     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-14 11:23       ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-14 11:46         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-15 22:38           ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-13  4:56 ` Richard Stallman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-11-20  7:28 A. Soare
2009-11-20  8:09 ` David Kastrup

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