* Re: emacs won't open files at startup from command line
[not found] ` <e8rws2cu08u.fsf@FLM000025LVE9F.catmktg.com>
@ 2009-10-30 20:35 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-04 6:06 ` Kevin Rodgers
2009-11-04 14:53 ` Dan Nicolaescu
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Lennart Borgman @ 2009-10-30 20:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: J. David Boyd; +Cc: emacs help, Emacs-Devel devel
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:53 PM, J. David Boyd <david@adboyd.com> wrote:
> david@adboyd.com (J. David Boyd) writes:
>
>> pjb@informatimago.com (Pascal J. Bourguignon) writes:
>>
>>> Tyler Smith <tyler.smith@eku.edu> writes:
>>>
>>>> david@adboyd.com (J. David Boyd) writes:
>>>>
>>>>> I could use some help troubleshooting this.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I start up emacs, it doesn't load the files I name on the command
>>>>> line, unless I do an 'emacs -q' to not load any init files.
>>>>>
>>>>> Obviously, it must be something in my .emacs file, but I don't see
>>>>> anything that I've changed in the recent past.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where should I start to debug this? I don't get any errors when it
>>>>> runs, it just refuses to load anything from the command line.
>>>>
>>>> At the risk of stating the obvious, have you tried commenting out all of
>>>> your .emacs, then progressively uncommenting it to isolate the lines
>>>> that are causing the problem? comment-region (aka M-;) makes this
>>>> pretty quick to do.
>>>
>>> Also, the OP could try:
>>>
>>> emacs --debug-init file.txt
>>>
>>> If the file is not open it might be because there's a bug in ~/.emacs
>>
>>
>> That I have tried. No errors at all... I was hoping that there would
>> be one, but everything loads just fine, no errors, just doesn't load the
>> file(s) named on the command line.
>>
>> Thanks for the idea, though.
>
> Found it! I've been calling table.el for years, but somehow it must be
> incompatible with emacs 23.1.1. Took that out, works great. Never used
> the functionality in it anyway...
>
> Dave
The file table.el is included in Emacs now.
This is not the first time I have seen quite interesting side effects
from using old versions of a file that has later been included in
Emacs. I think that some test should be made after startup for
potential such loadings. (This could be run conditionally after all
init files.)
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: emacs won't open files at startup from command line
2009-10-30 20:35 ` emacs won't open files at startup from command line Lennart Borgman
@ 2009-11-04 6:06 ` Kevin Rodgers
2009-11-04 9:45 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-04 20:32 ` J. David Boyd
2009-11-04 14:53 ` Dan Nicolaescu
1 sibling, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Kevin Rodgers @ 2009-11-04 6:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
Lennart Borgman wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:53 PM, J. David Boyd <david@adboyd.com> wrote:
...
>> Found it! I've been calling table.el for years, but somehow it must be
>> incompatible with emacs 23.1.1. Took that out, works great. Never used
>> the functionality in it anyway...
>
> The file table.el is included in Emacs now.
>
> This is not the first time I have seen quite interesting side effects
> from using old versions of a file that has later been included in
> Emacs. I think that some test should be made after startup for
> potential such loadings. (This could be run conditionally after all
> init files.)
`list-load-path-shadows' is what you want.
--
Kevin Rodgers
Denver, Colorado, USA
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: emacs won't open files at startup from command line
2009-11-04 6:06 ` Kevin Rodgers
@ 2009-11-04 9:45 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-04 20:32 ` J. David Boyd
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Lennart Borgman @ 2009-11-04 9:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kevin Rodgers; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs, emacs-devel
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Kevin Rodgers <kevin.d.rodgers@gmail.com> wrote:
> Lennart Borgman wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:53 PM, J. David Boyd <david@adboyd.com> wrote:
>
> ...
>>>
>>> Found it! I've been calling table.el for years, but somehow it must be
>>> incompatible with emacs 23.1.1. Took that out, works great. Never used
>>> the functionality in it anyway...
>>
>> The file table.el is included in Emacs now.
>>
>> This is not the first time I have seen quite interesting side effects
>> from using old versions of a file that has later been included in
>> Emacs. I think that some test should be made after startup for
>> potential such loadings. (This could be run conditionally after all
>> init files.)
>
> `list-load-path-shadows' is what you want.
You mean something that checks this variable after default.el have
been loaded? Yes.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: emacs won't open files at startup from command line
2009-10-30 20:35 ` emacs won't open files at startup from command line Lennart Borgman
2009-11-04 6:06 ` Kevin Rodgers
@ 2009-11-04 14:53 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-11-04 14:57 ` Lennart Borgman
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Dan Nicolaescu @ 2009-11-04 14:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lennart Borgman; +Cc: emacs help, J. David Boyd, Emacs-Devel devel
Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> writes:
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:53 PM, J. David Boyd <david@adboyd.com> wrote:
> > david@adboyd.com (J. David Boyd) writes:
> >
> >> pjb@informatimago.com (Pascal J. Bourguignon) writes:
> >>
> >>> Tyler Smith <tyler.smith@eku.edu> writes:
> >>>
> >>>> david@adboyd.com (J. David Boyd) writes:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I could use some help troubleshooting this.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> When I start up emacs, it doesn't load the files I name on the command
> >>>>> line, unless I do an 'emacs -q' to not load any init files.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Obviously, it must be something in my .emacs file, but I don't see
> >>>>> anything that I've changed in the recent past.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Where should I start to debug this? I don't get any errors when it
> >>>>> runs, it just refuses to load anything from the command line.
> >>>>
> >>>> At the risk of stating the obvious, have you tried commenting out all of
> >>>> your .emacs, then progressively uncommenting it to isolate the lines
> >>>> that are causing the problem? comment-region (aka M-;) makes this
> >>>> pretty quick to do.
> >>>
> >>> Also, the OP could try:
> >>>
> >>> emacs --debug-init file.txt
> >>>
> >>> If the file is not open it might be because there's a bug in ~/.emacs
> >>
> >>
> >> That I have tried. No errors at all... I was hoping that there would
> >> be one, but everything loads just fine, no errors, just doesn't load the
> >> file(s) named on the command line.
> >>
> >> Thanks for the idea, though.
> >
> > Found it! I've been calling table.el for years, but somehow it must be
> > incompatible with emacs 23.1.1. Took that out, works great. Never used
> > the functionality in it anyway...
> >
> > Dave
>
>
> The file table.el is included in Emacs now.
>
> This is not the first time I have seen quite interesting side effects
> from using old versions of a file that has later been included in
> Emacs. I think that some test should be made after startup for
> potential such loadings. (This could be run conditionally after all
> init files.)
See `bad-packages-alist'
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: emacs won't open files at startup from command line
2009-11-04 14:53 ` Dan Nicolaescu
@ 2009-11-04 14:57 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-04 15:05 ` Dan Nicolaescu
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Lennart Borgman @ 2009-11-04 14:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dan Nicolaescu; +Cc: emacs help, J. David Boyd, Emacs-Devel devel
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Dan Nicolaescu <dann@ics.uci.edu> wrote:
> Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:53 PM, J. David Boyd <david@adboyd.com> wrote:
> > > david@adboyd.com (J. David Boyd) writes:
> > >
> > >> pjb@informatimago.com (Pascal J. Bourguignon) writes:
> > >>
> > >>> Tyler Smith <tyler.smith@eku.edu> writes:
> > >>>
> > >>>> david@adboyd.com (J. David Boyd) writes:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> I could use some help troubleshooting this.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> When I start up emacs, it doesn't load the files I name on the command
> > >>>>> line, unless I do an 'emacs -q' to not load any init files.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Obviously, it must be something in my .emacs file, but I don't see
> > >>>>> anything that I've changed in the recent past.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Where should I start to debug this? I don't get any errors when it
> > >>>>> runs, it just refuses to load anything from the command line.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> At the risk of stating the obvious, have you tried commenting out all of
> > >>>> your .emacs, then progressively uncommenting it to isolate the lines
> > >>>> that are causing the problem? comment-region (aka M-;) makes this
> > >>>> pretty quick to do.
> > >>>
> > >>> Also, the OP could try:
> > >>>
> > >>> emacs --debug-init file.txt
> > >>>
> > >>> If the file is not open it might be because there's a bug in ~/.emacs
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> That I have tried. No errors at all... I was hoping that there would
> > >> be one, but everything loads just fine, no errors, just doesn't load the
> > >> file(s) named on the command line.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for the idea, though.
> > >
> > > Found it! I've been calling table.el for years, but somehow it must be
> > > incompatible with emacs 23.1.1. Took that out, works great. Never used
> > > the functionality in it anyway...
> > >
> > > Dave
> >
> >
> > The file table.el is included in Emacs now.
> >
> > This is not the first time I have seen quite interesting side effects
> > from using old versions of a file that has later been included in
> > Emacs. I think that some test should be made after startup for
> > potential such loadings. (This could be run conditionally after all
> > init files.)
>
> See `bad-packages-alist'
>
Ah, thanks, forgot about it.
Should not table.el be in this list too then?
And nxml too?
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: emacs won't open files at startup from command line
2009-11-04 14:57 ` Lennart Borgman
@ 2009-11-04 15:05 ` Dan Nicolaescu
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Dan Nicolaescu @ 2009-11-04 15:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lennart Borgman; +Cc: emacs help, J. David Boyd, Emacs-Devel devel
Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> writes:
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Dan Nicolaescu <dann@ics.uci.edu> wrote:
> > Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> writes:
> >
> > > On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:53 PM, J. David Boyd <david@adboyd.com> wrote:
> > > > david@adboyd.com (J. David Boyd) writes:
> > > >
> > > >> pjb@informatimago.com (Pascal J. Bourguignon) writes:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Tyler Smith <tyler.smith@eku.edu> writes:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> david@adboyd.com (J. David Boyd) writes:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> I could use some help troubleshooting this.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> When I start up emacs, it doesn't load the files I name on the command
> > > >>>>> line, unless I do an 'emacs -q' to not load any init files.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Obviously, it must be something in my .emacs file, but I don't see
> > > >>>>> anything that I've changed in the recent past.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Where should I start to debug this? I don't get any errors when it
> > > >>>>> runs, it just refuses to load anything from the command line.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> At the risk of stating the obvious, have you tried commenting out all of
> > > >>>> your .emacs, then progressively uncommenting it to isolate the lines
> > > >>>> that are causing the problem? comment-region (aka M-;) makes this
> > > >>>> pretty quick to do.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Also, the OP could try:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> emacs --debug-init file.txt
> > > >>>
> > > >>> If the file is not open it might be because there's a bug in ~/.emacs
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> That I have tried. No errors at all... I was hoping that there would
> > > >> be one, but everything loads just fine, no errors, just doesn't load the
> > > >> file(s) named on the command line.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks for the idea, though.
> > > >
> > > > Found it! I've been calling table.el for years, but somehow it must be
> > > > incompatible with emacs 23.1.1. Took that out, works great. Never used
> > > > the functionality in it anyway...
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > >
> > >
> > > The file table.el is included in Emacs now.
> > >
> > > This is not the first time I have seen quite interesting side effects
> > > from using old versions of a file that has later been included in
> > > Emacs. I think that some test should be made after startup for
> > > potential such loadings. (This could be run conditionally after all
> > > init files.)
> >
> > See `bad-packages-alist'
> >
>
> Ah, thanks, forgot about it.
>
> Should not table.el be in this list too then?
> And nxml too?
If they cause problems, they should.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: emacs won't open files at startup from command line
2009-11-04 6:06 ` Kevin Rodgers
2009-11-04 9:45 ` Lennart Borgman
@ 2009-11-04 20:32 ` J. David Boyd
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: J. David Boyd @ 2009-11-04 20:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
Kevin Rodgers <kevin.d.rodgers@gmail.com> writes:
> Lennart Borgman wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:53 PM, J. David Boyd <david@adboyd.com> wrote:
> ...
>>> Found it! I've been calling table.el for years, but somehow it must be
>>> incompatible with emacs 23.1.1. Took that out, works great. Never used
>>> the functionality in it anyway...
>>
>> The file table.el is included in Emacs now.
>>
>> This is not the first time I have seen quite interesting side effects
>> from using old versions of a file that has later been included in
>> Emacs. I think that some test should be made after startup for
>> potential such loadings. (This could be run conditionally after all
>> init files.)
>
> `list-load-path-shadows' is what you want.
Hey, that _is_ what I want! Cool, thanks, that will help me clean up my
.emacs file immensely...
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
end of thread, other threads:[~2009-11-04 20:32 UTC | newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages (download: mbox.gz follow: Atom feed
-- links below jump to the message on this page --
[not found] <e8rmy3bfmsu.fsf@FLM000025LVE9F.catmktg.com>
[not found] ` <mailman.9647.1256759713.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
[not found] ` <87vdhzp63c.fsf@galatea.local>
[not found] ` <e8r7huekvi0.fsf@FLM000025LVE9F.catmktg.com>
[not found] ` <e8rws2cu08u.fsf@FLM000025LVE9F.catmktg.com>
2009-10-30 20:35 ` emacs won't open files at startup from command line Lennart Borgman
2009-11-04 6:06 ` Kevin Rodgers
2009-11-04 9:45 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-04 20:32 ` J. David Boyd
2009-11-04 14:53 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-11-04 14:57 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-04 15:05 ` Dan Nicolaescu
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this public inbox
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).