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From: Lluis <xscript@gmx.net>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Completions in Semantic
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:21:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091027212118.GA25239@ginnungagap.pc.ac.upc.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwviqe7kxkn.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

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Sorry for the delay and the scarce response... too much work.


El Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 04:12:09PM -0400, Stefan Monnier ens deleità amb les següents paraules:
> > I don't know about the features of current code, but I miss some
> > features on some (if not all) the completion interfaces I've tested.
> > So here's a list of (my) desired features (all of which should be
> > configurable by the user):
> 
> Sounds interesting, but I must be missing some context because there's
> a lot of references I don't understand.  Could you expand on them?

Sure.


> > - symbol name
> >   Of course, this is what already provides every completion UI
> 
> No idea what you're talking about here.
> 
> > - extra information
> >   This can be filled ub with symbol "metadata".  Which metadata
> >   appears on the completion UI should be configurable by the user:
> >     - return type
> >     - arguments (type and/or name)
> >     - definition location (aka file)
> >     - short documentation
> >     - long documentation
> >   All this metadata should be located anywhere around the symbol name
> >   and/or the minibuffer (e.g., I think company-mode shows short
> >   documentation on minibuffer, until user presses F1, when full
> >   documentation is shown.  Some metadata might be shown in the
> >   minibuffer after completion selection (e.g., prototype).
> 
> Oh... wait, are you talking specifically about completion in code
> buffers, so "symbol name" above referred to the ability to complete an
> identifier?

That's right.


> As for this "extra info", I see what you mean, but usually completion
> involves several potential candidates, so listing them all plus all
> their info would take way too much space in general (if not, then
> something like completion-annotate-function should work).

What I described is similar to `completion-annotate-function', but more
flexible (prefixed in the symbol/identifier, postfixed; some in overlay, some in
minibuffer, etc).


> So usually this extra info is provided outside of the completion functionality
> (e.g. via eldoc-mode or something similar).  But, yes, I'd like to extend the
> *Completions* buffer so that you could ask for more info (either on all
> entries, or just on one at a time).

The key here is that completions do not necessarily have to go (only) into the
*Completions* buffer.


> > - result narrowing
> >   A-la company-mode.
> 
> No idea to what this is referring.

Company-mode provides a binding that, given the current table of possible
completions, the user can narrow it through various mechanisms (e.g., regexps).


> > - argument placeholders So that argument type and/or name is shown as
> > placeholders, such that the user simply TABs (or whatever) to fill-in
> > the blanks.
> 
> Idem.  Unless you mean something like skeletons/templates, but then
> I fail to see the connection with completion.

Completing a symbol triggers an arbitrary function, which could, for example:
    - show symbol definition
    - show short and/or extended documentation for symbol
    - insert skeleton/template-like symbol definition (such that user simply
      tabs to sellect next argument placeholder, which initially contains
      argument name and/or type).

This could be achieved if completions where "complex objects", so each could
describe what/where to show on the specific current completion UI, a "hover"
callback (e.g. show short doc or symbol signature on minibuffer), and a
selection callback (e.g., same possibilities as hover, plus the skeleton thing).

Read you,
    Lluis

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-27 21:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-18 23:00 Completions in Semantic Chong Yidong
2009-10-18 23:55 ` Miles Bader
2009-10-19  3:50 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-10-19 13:48   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-19 16:26     ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-10-19 18:29       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-19 19:33         ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-10-19 20:06           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-19 22:17             ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-10-20  0:07               ` Lennart Borgman
2009-10-30 21:17                 ` Toby Cubitt
2009-10-30 21:37                   ` Lennart Borgman
2009-10-20  0:14               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-20 20:20                 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-10-21 10:58                   ` Lluis
2009-10-21 12:35                     ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-10-21 13:28                       ` Lluis
2009-10-21 17:35                         ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-10-22 20:12                     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-27 21:21                       ` Lluis [this message]
2009-10-28  0:56                         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-28  2:25                           ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-10-28  3:23                             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-29 14:38                               ` Lluis
2009-10-31 20:18                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-01 16:01                                   ` Lluís
2009-11-02  6:12                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-02 12:13                                       ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-10-22 20:00                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-19 23:52   ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-10-21 14:07     ` Chong Yidong
2009-10-21 16:10       ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-10-23  1:01         ` Chong Yidong
2009-10-23  1:28           ` Eric M. Ludlam

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