From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: nterm a vt100 emulator Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:49:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <200910201849.n9KInkR2028827@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> References: <87d44osokv.fsf@kanis.fr> <87skdjrgqb.fsf@kanis.fr> <87ljj6zl8t.fsf@kanis.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1256064712 25024 80.91.229.12 (20 Oct 2009 18:51:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:51:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs devel To: Ivan Kanis Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 20 20:51:41 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1N0Jo2-0004j8-UU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:51:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40569 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1N0Jo2-0007bn-HZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:51:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1N0Jnw-0007bX-TJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:51:32 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1N0Jns-0007b0-Sf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:51:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47563 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1N0Jns-0007ax-Lj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:51:28 -0400 Original-Received: from colin-baker-v0.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.153]:43348) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N0Jns-0004V3-5a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:51:28 -0400 Original-Received: from godzilla.ics.uci.edu (godzilla.ics.uci.edu [128.195.10.101]) by colin-baker-v0.ics.uci.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n9KInkRx003527; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:49:46 -0700 Original-Received: (from dann@localhost) by godzilla.ics.uci.edu (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.6/Submit) id n9KInkR2028827; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:49:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87ljj6zl8t.fsf@kanis.fr> (Ivan Kanis's message of "Tue, 20 Oct 2009 07:29:22 +0200") Original-Lines: 19 X-ICS-MailScanner-Information: Please send mail to helpdesk@ics.uci.edu or more information X-ICS-MailScanner-ID: n9KInkRx003527 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@godzilla.ics.uci.edu X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:116271 Archived-At: Ivan Kanis writes: > Stefan Monnier wrote: > > >> term and terminal are not meant to be full emulation. term has > >> a pager and line mode which nterm doesn't do. nterm doesn't track > >> current directory like term does. > > > > That makes it sound like nterm is like term but with less features. > > I'm sure there's an upside to it. Also, if you could explain how these > > different design decisions affect the ability to fix the original cursor > > bug, that would be great. > > The recorder takes a trace of characters received by the > terminal. Someone can easily reproduce a bug by replaying the trace > both on xterm and nterm. I don't think term has that feature. See term-start-output-log