From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes in lisp/Makefile.in to skip preloaded files Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:12:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <200910061312.n96DCIqW023100@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> References: <837hv9neza.fsf@gnu.org> <8363asoov2.fsf@gnu.org> <833a5woo3g.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1254835946 29065 80.91.229.12 (6 Oct 2009 13:32:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 13:32:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 06 15:32:15 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MvA97-0004rp-Vu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:32:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48127 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MvA97-0005Kw-3q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:32:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mv9ud-0003A3-Th for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:17:07 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mv9uY-00035e-Bw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:17:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59954 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mv9uY-00035U-4P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:17:02 -0400 Original-Received: from paul-mcgann-v0.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.147]:51221) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mv9uU-0000Fj-9L; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:16:58 -0400 Original-Received: from godzilla.ics.uci.edu (godzilla.ics.uci.edu [128.195.10.101]) by paul-mcgann-v0.ics.uci.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n96DCJdd017100; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:12:19 -0700 Original-Received: (from dann@localhost) by godzilla.ics.uci.edu (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.6/Submit) id n96DCIqW023100; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:12:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Miles Bader's message of "Tue, 06 Oct 2009 19:14:19 +0900") Original-Lines: 17 X-ICS-MailScanner-Information: Please send mail to helpdesk@ics.uci.edu or more information X-ICS-MailScanner-ID: n96DCJdd017100 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@godzilla.ics.uci.edu X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:115922 Archived-At: Miles Bader writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> Well, of course that's only true if a built emacs is available at the > >> point of invocation. > > > > Agreed. In the case in point, Emacs _is_ available, since we generate > > loaddefs.el by running Emacs. > > Sure, tho if sed is needed at _any_ point in the build process, it's > then a requirement, so there's no reason to not use it elsewhere. IMO in this particular case it's just an unnecessary complication, the alternative is to remove the ;;;#autoload lines in the preloaded files. Which there are about 4, and only one of which has an important impact, the one in ediff-init.el ....