From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Werner LEMBERG Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: I can see invisible characters Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 20:03:50 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <20090521.200350.56965648.wl@gnu.org> References: <20090521.060234.04432598.wl@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1242929061 27885 80.91.229.12 (21 May 2009 18:04:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 18:04:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 21 20:04:14 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1M7Ccm-0004iJ-NR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 May 2009 20:04:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48891 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M7Ccm-0001uU-04 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 May 2009 14:04:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M7Ccf-0001tq-Pb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 May 2009 14:04:05 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M7Ccb-0001oH-9l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 May 2009 14:04:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60206 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M7Ccb-0001oA-5N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 May 2009 14:04:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:47095) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M7Cca-0001qF-8x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 May 2009 14:04:00 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 21 May 2009 18:03:59 -0000 Original-Received: from ip-78-94-3-200.unitymediagroup.de (EHLO localhost) [78.94.3.200] by mail.gmx.net (mp052) with SMTP; 21 May 2009 20:03:59 +0200 X-Authenticated: #54312696 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19ohJlv+lNoZL5tr1cU4O4B/kmHhZo+89CDXJABGE ufZHh/ml1ha1H0 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Mew version 6.2.51 on Emacs 23.0.93.1 / Mule 6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.64 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:111017 Archived-At: >> As you can see, the positions overlap. > > The positions are *between* chars, so the positions themselves have > a width of 0, so the interval 1-16 and 16-36 do not overlap. OK. Silly me. I somehow got the impression that `point' and `positions' are different things. >> Note that, according to the info of `C-x =', I can't access >> position 138, the first visible character after applying my code. >> This *can't* be right IMHO. > > That doesn't sound right: the first visible position is the char on > interval 137-138. So you should not be able to access position 137 > (because the invisible&intangible interval 1-137 is rear-sticky, so > you can place point at its beginning but not at its end), but you > should be able to go to position 138 (between the A and the a of > Aalbauer). This relieves me :-) At least I'm only partially dumb. Werner