From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Don Armstrong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Don't report new bugs for Rmail?? Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:02:18 -0800 Message-ID: <20090201040218.GZ4175@volo.donarmstrong.com> References: <20090131104403.GQ4175@volo.donarmstrong.com> <20090131211929.GT4175@volo.donarmstrong.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1233460953 30554 80.91.229.12 (1 Feb 2009 04:02:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 04:02:33 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 01 05:03:46 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LTTYW-0003po-ID for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 05:03:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42260 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LTTXE-0002cK-1K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:02:16 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LTTX9-0002bN-U2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:02:11 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LTTX8-0002bA-6y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:02:11 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37661 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LTTX8-0002b7-34 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:02:10 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:48619) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LTTX7-0002QB-FI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:02:09 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n11428KT027072 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:02:08 -0800 Original-Received: (from remotemail@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n11428db027071 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:02:08 -0800 Original-Received: (nullmailer pid 12543 invoked by uid 1000); Sun, 01 Feb 2009 04:02:18 -0000 Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:108491 Archived-At: On Sun, 01 Feb 2009, Juanma Barranquero wrote: > Packages are not arbitrary labels. "Packages" are. I said that > packages are "packages" (i.e., labels) plus other things. > > What I was saying, in other words, is that you can assign a bug to > any arbitrary label, but that the label is not a real package unless > the package exists. You don't assign a bug to an arbitrary label. There's no such thing as a label in debbugs. You assign a bug to a package. The package(s) a bug is assigned is orthogonal to whether that package actually exists and the other goodies that come with packages that have been properly defined in debbugs. I'd rather not waste time trying to work around problems and misconceptions brought about by the use of invented non-standard nomenclature to describe how debbugs operates. [In actual fact, I probably won't spend the time dealing with such issues at all.] > But still, you can search for the label "rmail" even if no package > exists. No. You can search for bugs which have package "rmail". There is no such thing as a label in debbugs. The package a bug is assigned to has nothing to do with whether the package is known to exist. Debbugs only cares about what is in the package field of the bug when searching for bugs. Don Armstrong -- A Democracy lead by politicians and political parties, fails. http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu