From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Don Armstrong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Don't report new bugs for Rmail?? Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 14:24:01 -0800 Message-ID: <20090131222401.GU4175@volo.donarmstrong.com> References: <20090131104403.GQ4175@volo.donarmstrong.com> <20090131211929.GT4175@volo.donarmstrong.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1233440662 10386 80.91.229.12 (31 Jan 2009 22:24:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:24:22 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 31 23:25:35 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LTOHI-0002Ck-V0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:25:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55233 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LTOG0-0001ui-Gy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:24:08 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LTOFm-0001ob-Tz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:23:55 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LTOFk-0001ns-Vh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:23:54 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47719 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LTOFk-0001no-RG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:23:52 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:54745) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LTOFk-0003oA-Bu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:23:52 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0VMNpVk011014 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 14:23:51 -0800 Original-Received: (from remotemail@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n0VMNpIO011013 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 14:23:51 -0800 Original-Received: (nullmailer pid 13231 invoked by uid 1000); Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:24:01 -0000 Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:108481 Archived-At: On Sat, 31 Jan 2009, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > But you just said that a package named "rmail" does not exist, > didn't you? As far as the BTS is concerned, it doesn't exist. Bugs are allowed to be assigned to packages which do not exist. > Rmail's maintainer is "FSF". Which means that Emacs maintainers are > collectively responsible for maintaining Rmail. Doesn't really matter to me who is responsible for it; I just need a mailing address. > Well, that request can easily be interpreted as meaning that bug > reports against Rmail are not welcome. I think this is not what we > want to say. It is actually what is meant. If a package doesn't exist, people shouldn't file bugs against it. The problem here is that the package *should* apparently exist, and no one has bothered to communicate that fact. > It's IMO inconsistency to allow bugs be filed against a package that > doesn't exist. The alternative is rejecting them entirely, which I think is the wrong decision. The reports are allowed to be filed on the presumption that somone later will look at the bug reports and assign them to the appropriate package. Don Armstrong -- A citizen of America will cross the ocean to fight for democracy, but won't cross the street to vote in a national election. -- Bill Vaughan http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu