From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Release update Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:27:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <200812042227.mB4MR0sZ004171@mothra.ics.uci.edu> References: <87ej0rs3ey.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <200812041951.mB4JpIsH003321@mothra.ics.uci.edu> <873ah3ipl7.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1228429647 26736 80.91.229.12 (4 Dec 2008 22:27:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 22:27:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 04 23:28:30 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1L8MgO-0008Fm-4G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:28:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33848 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L8MfD-0000u3-Gc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:27:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L8Mf9-0000td-Hj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:27:11 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L8Mf8-0000t5-2I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:27:11 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39440 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L8Mf7-0000t0-Rg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:27:09 -0500 Original-Received: from sallyv2.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.120]:58717) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA1:24) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L8Mf7-0008R0-EN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:27:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mothra.ics.uci.edu (mothra.ics.uci.edu [128.195.6.93]) by sallyv2.ics.uci.edu (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7) with ESMTP id mB4MR1cp001769; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:27:01 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: (from dann@localhost) by mothra.ics.uci.edu (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.6/Submit) id mB4MR0sZ004171; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:27:00 -0800 (PST) Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <873ah3ipl7.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> (Chong Yidong's message of "Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:43:16 -0500") Original-Lines: 26 X-ICS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ICS-MailScanner-ID: mB4MR1cp001769 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@mothra.ics.uci.edu X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:106584 Archived-At: Chong Yidong writes: > Dan Nicolaescu writes: > > > May I suggest that writing a release announcement be part of the > > release process? Something short that summarizes the most important > > features would be good to give people reasons to look further in NEWS > > and to upgrade, and it's good for PR. Not everyone wants to read the > > 2000 lines NEWS file... > > We do include a feature summary in the release announcement; see, for > instance, the 21.1 and 22.1 release announcements. This is written up The 22.1 announcement is the one I had in mind, and it could be improved a lot. Something like: - New modes and packages, including Calc, Grep, TRAMP, URL, IDO, CUA, ERC, rcirc, Table, Image-Dired, SES, Ruler, Org, PGG, Flymake, Password, Printing, Reveal, wdired, t-mouse, longlines, savehist, Conf mode, Python mode, DNS mode, etc. - Abbrev definitions are read automatically at startup. is not too helpful for a lot of users. IMHO the announcement should be readable for people that are not intimately familiar with the emacs internals.