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From: Dan Nicolaescu <dann@ics.uci.edu>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
Cc: Tom Tromey <tromey@redhat.com>,
	"T.V. Raman" <tv.raman.tv@gmail.com>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: files.el: Patch to make project-settings optional/customizable
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 04:10:14 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200811231210.mANCAEv7023193@mothra.ics.uci.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ljvayb18.fsf@jurta.org> (Juri Linkov's message of "Sun, 23 Nov 2008 12:45:59 +0200")

Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org> writes:

  > > So there are 2 uses .dir-locals.el 3 lines apart in the same 24 lines function.
  > > The defconst adds 4 lines.  It's hard to keep a straight face and claim
  > > that the defconst is a good idea.
  > > (and the 2 uses could be reduced to a single one if we make
  > > locate-dominating-file return an expanded file name -- which seems to be
  > > a good idea anyway).
  > >
  > > It's kind of painful that this discussion is still going on, it should
  > > have never occurred in the first place...
  > 
  > I can't believe we have this kind of discussion :(
  > 
  > All packages with similar functionality have defcustom for the file name.
  > dir-locals.el was created in 2005 and dirvars.el in 2002.
  > For several years they provided customization without problems.

This has been discussed to death, and someone said it very well upthread:
"it's broken by design".

  > Our discussion reached the need to make this file name constant.

How was it not a constant before the change?

  > I'm ok with this conclusion.  So I created defconst because it
  > explicitly says that the file name should not be modified by the user,

What does that accomplish that the previous code or adding a comment to
the code did not?  
Why is this better encapsulation?

  > unlike if it was hidden in the function dir-locals-find-file where users
  > will be the temptation to redefine the whole function without understanding
  > that the file name have to be constant.

Why is the danger of redefining a function greater than simply using setq? 




  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-23 12:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-13 14:29 files.el: Patch to make project-settings optional/customizable T.V. Raman
2008-11-13 15:20 ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-13 16:07   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-11-13 16:19     ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-11-13 16:45       ` Tom Tromey
2008-11-13 17:14         ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-13 17:28           ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-11-13 17:55             ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-13 17:59               ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-11-13 19:13                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-13 19:00               ` Tom Tromey
2008-11-13 19:15                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-13 18:26             ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-13 18:48               ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-11-18 16:36                 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-11-18 22:04                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-18 22:15                     ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-11-18 22:42                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-18 23:18                         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-11-18 23:41                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-18 22:59                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-18 23:31                       ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-18 23:33                       ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-18 23:41                         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-11-18 23:50                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-19  0:14                             ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-11-19  1:48                               ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-19  8:26                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-19 12:52                               ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-11-18 23:37                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-19  2:01                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-19  8:39                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-19 13:27                           ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-11-19 22:45                           ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-19 22:58                             ` Tom Tromey
2008-11-20  2:18                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-22 19:08                               ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-22 19:40                                 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-11-22 19:51                                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-22 20:20                                     ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-11-22 22:03                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-23  3:34                                       ` Miles Bader
2008-11-23  5:27                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-23  5:36                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-23  5:58                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-23  8:10                                           ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-11-23 10:45                                             ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-23 12:10                                               ` Dan Nicolaescu [this message]
2008-11-23 12:41                                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-23 17:16                                                   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-11-23 17:45                                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-23 21:21                                                       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-11-24  2:14                                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-11-24  3:06                                               ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-11-24  5:35                                                 ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-22  4:03                             ` Kevin Rodgers
2008-11-19  4:07                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-11-13 19:04               ` Tom Tromey
2008-11-13 19:23           ` Tom Tromey
2008-11-13 19:55             ` Juanma Barranquero

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