From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Colascione Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Meanness Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:10:09 -0400 Organization: Merrill Press Message-ID: <200808292210.09255.danc@merrillpress.com> References: <20080726081019.GB1419@muc.de> <488B6391.2040500@emf.net> <85abg41rz8.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220062227 17430 80.91.229.12 (30 Aug 2008 02:10:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:10:27 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 30 04:11:21 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KZFvr-0001BZ-Ct for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:11:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39868 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZFus-000693-LB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:10:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KZFuo-00068M-JH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:10:14 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KZFum-00065Q-FK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:10:13 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35739 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZFum-00065N-C2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:10:12 -0400 Original-Received: from vpn.merrillpress.com ([64.61.107.78]:51075) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KZFum-0004wM-2p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:10:12 -0400 Original-Received: from pluto.merrillpress.net ([10.136.5.5]) by mars.merrillpress.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZFuk-000558-7q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:10:10 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 In-Reply-To: <85abg41rz8.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> X-Face: 9VC; >}hM+`K4j{H4n=pq/!61'7Rt"vEaPUdCwpS'=; @B7Ll,~Q.xb(|A>; 8M[\UzKQi{>=?utf-8?q?Q=0A=09Iptc6NY=5CM?=(0<{W?ob}e/91Y!k|XE:2SA2LU"cni>=?utf-8?q?=23Dmw4siEWG7=7CL9zkOZ=5C=5BnQPe9=5BPG=7Cs=0A=09P2n=5FjW=5CTzsG?= =?utf-8?q?2N1Z0q=3AE=23NmWU=7E0i=5DJE?=)gqB|4{jCjolaX6)KO[@k\:>01.58.Pk5Nb\5s" =?utf-8?q?=3A=0A=09R?=,Q78_s; 6+vLj\V1y(`]\G3("(Y!G^79x}q[4L8w[.qEs|+ZN0R`Hk,> =?utf-8?q?y=3Bd7!SFx=25M2M39=0A=09y=5B/Kc!p!=3A=2EE3Zx=27?=)v*l6IlR Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:103238 Archived-At: On Saturday 26 July 2008, David Kastrup wrote: > My experience with Windows-too projects runs quite contrary. The costs > are in _no_ relation whatsoever to the benefits for the non-Windows > parts (actually, their tend to be only costs for them, without > benefits). And I don't see Emacs as an exception. The benefit for a > Windows port lies in having a Windows port. If there were tangible > other benefits, we could invent imaginary operating systems en gros and > spend our time porting to them. I know several people who began using Free Software systems because they first used Emacs on Windows, moved to Cygwin, and eventually to entirely free operating systems.