From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: tomas@tuxteam.de Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: start emacs without creating frames and connect with emacsclient later Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:59:05 +0200 Message-ID: <20080822055905.GA32110@tomas> References: <200808131610.m7DGAkvk020047@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200808211720.m7LHKSne001960@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <48ADF25A.40102@harpegolden.net> <200808212356.m7LNtxud020153@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1219384289 14010 80.91.229.12 (22 Aug 2008 05:51:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 05:51:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, David De La Harpe Golden To: Dan Nicolaescu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 22 07:52:22 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KWPZN-0005W3-2u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:52:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54552 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KWPYP-0002pV-2n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:51:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KWPYK-0002pQ-C0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:51:16 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KWPYI-0002pE-6x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:51:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49911 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KWPYI-0002pB-1G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:51:14 -0400 Original-Received: from alextrapp1.equinoxe.de ([217.22.192.104]:54038 helo=www.elogos.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KWPYF-0006AL-5K; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:51:11 -0400 Original-Received: by www.elogos.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 181319006B; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:59:05 +0200 (CEST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200808212356.m7LNtxud020153@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15+20070412 (2007-04-11) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:102808 Archived-At: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 04:55:59PM -0700, Dan Nicolaescu wrote: > David De La Harpe Golden writes: [...] > > FWIW (Which may not be much...), I'm not sure that [...] > > should be conflated to quite such a degree. [...] > The fact that emacs "escape" the session manager here is absolutely > intentional. Being able to access an emacs session over the net, > keeping emacs alive if X crashes, etc is extremely helpful. As I understood David, he wasn't arguing against that, but for a separation of concerns (daemon vs windowless), which actually are two dimensions. Which IMHO makes a lot of sense. Regards - -- tom=C3=A1s -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIrlWpBcgs9XrR2kYRAuiFAJ0RvRInk5A6MTjJlGn2BJlZnmoGzQCcCTVe MLWLEvODbWtGGGpdNEI+QPk=3D =3DUw6J -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----