From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jonathan Yavner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: re: whither GNU Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:47:51 -0400 Message-ID: <200808220047.51963.jyavner@member.fsf.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1219380510 5095 80.91.229.12 (22 Aug 2008 04:48:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:48:30 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 22 06:49:10 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KWOaB-0001Ig-7C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 06:49:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54288 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KWOZD-0005Dj-NL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:48:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KWOZ3-0005B4-56 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:47:57 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KWOZ2-0005AS-1K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:47:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35570 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KWOZ1-0005AL-RU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:47:55 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp121.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([206.190.53.26]:35252) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KWOZ0-0004y6-Ge for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:47:55 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 5029 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2008 04:47:53 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.40.252?) (jyavner@rogers.com@99.241.226.208 with plain) by smtp121.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 2008 04:47:53 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 45aSZ8IVM1nNDWmlzSOp9AfVZET1QgWZ9X5gdpduf14zaj5Sz6BbJmCtoOFz0zxJ_A-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.4) (2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:102806 Archived-At: > Juanma Barranquero wrote: > That was pretty evident in the way bzr did get "chosen" as future > dVCS for Emacs. > David Robinow wrote: > Are there still problems? I don't know. I haven't used it yet. If > you find any you should file a bug report. I tried using it, but it was too slow, even for my small project (only 1200 commits of history, bzr takes many seconds just to show "info"). I haven't bothered to file a bug report because previous messages on emacs-devel indicate that the bzr people are already quite aware of the speed problem. I hope Emacs doesn't drop CVS until after bzr has been improved considerably. I also tried git and looked at mercurial, but I haven't yet found the right dVCS for my application (central repository and working checkout on server, copy of repository and checkout on laptop, push from laptop to server updates server's checkout but only if no merge-conflicts occur). For now I'm still using CVS even though it doesn't really do the job. A familiar tool with problems (and known workarounds) is better than an unfamiliar tool that still has problems but no known workarounds!