From: Dan Nicolaescu <dann@ics.uci.edu>
To: Ken Raeburn <raeburn@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: a little feedback on Cocoa Emacs.app
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:53:30 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200808042153.m74LrUQN012011@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <35E82E8D-B8CD-4EDC-B620-F18DA99BF1A1@gnu.org> (Ken Raeburn's message of "Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:28:42 -0400")
Ken Raeburn <raeburn@gnu.org> writes:
> On Aug 4, 2008, at 13:04, Dan Nicolaescu wrote:
> > Ken Raeburn <raeburn@gnu.org> writes:
> >
> >> A variation I'd be more interested in, though, might be the ability
> >> to
> >> run window-less. Much like some Mac apps will let you close the last
> >> window, but keep running, and let you open new windows (or quit)
> >> through the menus that are displayed even without any open windows.
> >> I
> >> don't know if there's a good analog for this behavior for X11 and
> >> Windows, though, so I'm not going to hold my breath.
> >
> > This behavior has been on the wish list for X11 for a while... It
> > might
> > not even be that hard to implement, but nobody has volunteered to do
> > it
> > so far.
>
> Are there specific ideas for how to keep talking to Emacs in that case
> other than emacsclient or gnuclient to tell it to run make-frame, or
> is that the way?
IMHO emacsclient should be the way.
It could work like this:
emacs --daemon
then use "emacsclient" to create window system frames, and "emacsclient -t"
to create terminal frames.
(There is a functionally equivalent workaround for the missing --daemon
functionality that people are using now: start "emacs -nw -fserver-start"
in a "screen" session, and then suspend the "screen" session)
Maybe at some point emacsclient should be folded in emacs.
> (Which reminds me... my old usage pattern for Emacs
> used to be to run Emacs on the local X display while in front of the
> machine, and tell it to invoke make-frame-on-display over ssh when
> logged in remotely. One Emacs process, one long-lived Gnus session,
> etc. I'd really like to be able to do something like that now, but
> with the local display on my Mac using the NS support, which means
> supporting both X and NS in one executable, and in one process....
Both NS and X are not supported in one executable, never heard of anyone
planning to support that.
You can use terminal frames now when logged in remotely (via emacsclient
-t), in a 256 color terminal they work pretty well.
> I also tended to have -- on the local display -- a minibuffer-only
> frame, and zero or more minibuffer-less editing frames, so I could
> certainly have no editing frames open at times, though there was
> always the minibuffer at least.)
Unfortunately terminal frames won't work very well in this setup...
Hope this helps.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-04 21:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-26 2:11 a little feedback on Cocoa Emacs.app Ken Raeburn
2008-07-27 2:29 ` Adrian Robert
2008-07-27 2:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-27 16:45 ` Ken Raeburn
2008-07-28 2:34 ` Adrian Robert
2008-08-04 10:15 ` Ken Raeburn
2008-08-04 12:42 ` mituharu
2008-08-04 13:08 ` Adrian Robert
2008-08-04 12:50 ` Adrian Robert
2008-08-04 16:56 ` Ken Raeburn
2008-08-04 17:04 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-08-04 17:23 ` Justin Bogner
2008-08-04 17:27 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-08-04 19:28 ` Ken Raeburn
2008-08-04 21:53 ` Dan Nicolaescu [this message]
2008-08-04 23:43 ` Adrian Robert
2008-08-05 3:05 ` Adrian Robert
2008-08-05 4:01 ` Ken Raeburn
2008-08-05 16:17 ` Adrian Robert
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