From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: a little feedback on Cocoa Emacs.app Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 10:27:01 -0700 Message-ID: <200808041727.m74HR2ad019949@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> References: <4358E889-E5D2-4E68-83D3-E6AB9C03F7B5@gnu.org> <508B5967-EAA1-4DEA-8533-19E4C0CD4ECF@gnu.org> <9F4D1718-BBB2-489C-8124-35189C98775E@gnu.org> <2616537B-2ECE-4C20-B707-3C802DC4C10D@gmail.com> <25E49984-75A7-4879-93B5-22C240F8950C@gnu.org> <200808041704.m74H4Zu9008903@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <48973AF4.1080003@justinbogner.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1217870934 23206 80.91.229.12 (4 Aug 2008 17:28:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:28:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Justin Bogner Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 04 19:29:44 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KQ3sJ-00042p-SY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:29:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34835 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KQ3rO-00032V-1A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:28:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KQ3qL-0001mn-Ud for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:27:37 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KQ3qK-0001kN-5n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:27:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48923 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KQ3qJ-0001kB-S6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:27:35 -0400 Original-Received: from sallyv1.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.109]:38944) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA1:24) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KQ3qJ-0005nL-As for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:27:35 -0400 X-ICS-MailScanner-Watermark: 1218475622.908@BF+dNjBcD/davheckkLYCw Original-Received: from mothra.ics.uci.edu (mothra.ics.uci.edu [128.195.6.93]) by sallyv1.ics.uci.edu (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m74HR2ad019949; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:27:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <48973AF4.1080003@justinbogner.com> (Justin Bogner's message of "Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:23:00 -0600") Original-Lines: 23 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@mothra.ics.uci.edu X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:102052 Archived-At: Justin Bogner writes: > Dan Nicolaescu wrote: > > Ken Raeburn writes: > > > > > A variation I'd be more interested in, though, might be the ability to > > > run window-less. Much like some Mac apps will let you close the last > > > window, but keep running, and let you open new windows (or quit) > > > through the menus that are displayed even without any open windows. I > > > don't know if there's a good analog for this behavior for X11 and > > > Windows, though, so I'm not going to hold my breath. > > > > This behavior has been on the wish list for X11 for a while... It might > > not even be that hard to implement, but nobody has volunteered to do it > > so far. > > > > With multi-tty, this behaviour could be fairly sane via the > client-server model. That is to say, if the server were allowed to run > without a window, you would have this behaviour. That's exactly what the missing part is: being able to run without a frame.