From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Davi Leal Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Release plans Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 19:39:58 +0200 Message-ID: <200808011939.59277.davi@leals.com> References: <570553.73339.qm@web95014.mail.in2.yahoo.com> <20080731093022.GB2886@muc.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1217612574 3044 80.91.229.12 (1 Aug 2008 17:42:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 17:42:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Alan Mackenzie , dhruva@ymail.com To: emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 01 19:43:43 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KOyfG-0002aE-2E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:43:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53838 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KOyeK-0003ac-Sn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:42:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KOyby-0001EN-CX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:40:18 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KOybw-0001BI-6F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:40:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=40498 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KOybv-0001Ap-VX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:40:16 -0400 Original-Received: from 57.red-88-2-100.staticip.rima-tde.net ([88.2.100.57]:41753 helo=mail.leals.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KOybo-0005YB-Fy; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:40:09 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.leals.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3A5D6F8192; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 19:40:02 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail.leals.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (AMD.leals.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nqbDDgxLpDYv; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 19:40:02 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from amd.leals.com (AMD.leals.com [192.168.0.2]) by mail.leals.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBBC16F8191; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 19:40:01 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101910 Archived-At: Richard M Stallman wrote: > As far as I > can, I run only free software at home. However my PC's BIOS is not > free, > > On fsf.org there are recommendations for PCs that run with a free BIOS. > > and neither is the software in my DSL router - yet. Would you likewise > suggest I should not use DSL until fully free firmware becomes > available? > > No, I expect that router does not count. I'd expect users don't > install software at all in that, so it might as well be a circuit, and > we don't need to ask whether there is actually software inside it. > > You are arguing against a straw man that didn't come from me. So we are not forced to give a copy of the source code which is used inside the GNU/Linux based routers and bridges network appliances we rent to our customers?