No XFT in CVS from this morning

No XFT in CVS from this morning

[Taylor Venable]

I built Emacs from CVS this morning, and there's no font anti-aliasing
being done.  Here are the hopefully relevant lines from configure:

checking XFT_CFLAGS... -D_POSIX_THREAD_SAFE_FUNCTIONS
-I/usr/pkg/include -I/usr/pkg/include/freetype2 checking XFT_LIBS...
-Wl,-R/usr/pkg/lib -L/usr/pkg/lib -lXft -lXrender -lfontconfig
-lfreetype -lz -lX11 checking X11/Xft/Xft.h usability... yes checking
X11/Xft/Xft.h presence... yes checking for X11/Xft/Xft.h... yes
checking for XftFontOpen in -lXft... yes
checking for pkg-config... (cached) /usr/pkg/bin/pkg-config
checking for libotf... no
checking for pkg-config... (cached) /usr/pkg/bin/pkg-config
checking for m17n-flt... no

Platform is NetBSD 4.99.63 on AMD64 with GCC 4.1.3 -- let me know if
anything else would be useful.  This was working on a build from
probably about a month ago, but that was the last one I did until this
morning, so about anything in-between I cannot say.  Nothing else in
the configuration has changed, and the behaviour is the same with or
without "-q".

Thanks,

-- 
Taylor Venable            http://real.metasyntax.net:2357/

foldr = lambda f, i, l: (len(l) == 1 and [f(l[0], i)] or
                         [f(l[0], foldr(f, i, l[1:]))])[0]

Re: No XFT in CVS from this morning

[Chong Yidong]

Taylor Venable <taylor@metasyntax.net> writes:

> I built Emacs from CVS this morning, and there's no font anti-aliasing
> being done.

I can't reproduce this using latest CVS.  What font are you using?

Re: No XFT in CVS from this morning

[Taylor Venable]

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:03:42 -0400
Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> wrote:

> Taylor Venable <taylor@metasyntax.net> writes:
> 
> > I built Emacs from CVS this morning, and there's no font
> > anti-aliasing being done.
> 
> I can't reproduce this using latest CVS.  What font are you using?

From my .emacs file:

(set-face-attribute 'default                nil :font "DejaVu Sans
Mono-13" :slant 'normal :weight 'normal)

Or from .Xresources:

	Xft.antialias: 1
	Xft.hintstyle: hintfull

	#ifdef DPI_OVERRIDE
	  Xft.dpi: 90
	  Emacs.font: DejaVu Sans Mono-12
	#endif

Which worked as expected earlier; those haven't changed.  I'm wondering
if it could be a library, but I cannot remember changing anything there
either.

I'm going back in date from CVS to find out where it last worked.  It
might also be worth noting that when I try to change the default face
(via M-x customize-face default) to another font e.g. "DejaVu Sans" the
window gets very narrow, GTK says:

	Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_window_resize: assertion `width > 0' failed

And I have to kill emacs from outside (and not just an interrupt signal
either; I used kill -9 to finally get rid of it).

-- 
Taylor Venable            http://real.metasyntax.net:2357/

foldr = lambda f, i, l: (len(l) == 1 and [f(l[0], i)] or
                         [f(l[0], foldr(f, i, l[1:]))])[0]

Re: No XFT in CVS from this morning

[Chong Yidong]

Taylor Venable <taylor@metasyntax.net> writes:

>> > I built Emacs from CVS this morning, and there's no font
>> > anti-aliasing being done.
>> 
>> I can't reproduce this using latest CVS.  What font are you using?
>
> From my .emacs file:
>
> (set-face-attribute 'default nil
>   :font "DejaVu Sans Mono-13" :slant 'normal :weight 'normal)

Working fine for me on i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.9, latest
CVS.

Re: No XFT in CVS from this morning

[Stefan Monnier]

> I built Emacs from CVS this morning, and there's no font anti-aliasing
> being done.  Here are the hopefully relevant lines from configure:

> checking XFT_CFLAGS... -D_POSIX_THREAD_SAFE_FUNCTIONS
> -I/usr/pkg/include -I/usr/pkg/include/freetype2 checking XFT_LIBS...
> -Wl,-R/usr/pkg/lib -L/usr/pkg/lib -lXft -lXrender -lfontconfig
> -lfreetype -lz -lX11 checking X11/Xft/Xft.h usability... yes checking
> X11/Xft/Xft.h presence... yes checking for X11/Xft/Xft.h... yes
> checking for XftFontOpen in -lXft... yes
> checking for pkg-config... (cached) /usr/pkg/bin/pkg-config
> checking for libotf... no
> checking for pkg-config... (cached) /usr/pkg/bin/pkg-config
> checking for m17n-flt... no

> Platform is NetBSD 4.99.63 on AMD64 with GCC 4.1.3 -- let me know if
> anything else would be useful.  This was working on a build from
> probably about a month ago, but that was the last one I did until this
> morning, so about anything in-between I cannot say.  Nothing else in
> the configuration has changed, and the behaviour is the same with or
> without "-q".

Try to add

  (push '(font-backend xft x) default-frame-alist)

to your .emacs.  The current default is to prefer old-style X fonts.


        Stefan

Re: No XFT in CVS from this morning

[Taylor Venable]

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On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:08:12 -0400
Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> wrote:

> Taylor Venable <taylor@metasyntax.net> writes:
> 
> >> > I built Emacs from CVS this morning, and there's no font
> >> > anti-aliasing being done.
> >> 
> >> I can't reproduce this using latest CVS.  What font are you using?
> >
> > From my .emacs file:
> >
> > (set-face-attribute 'default nil
> >   :font "DejaVu Sans Mono-13" :slant 'normal :weight 'normal)
> 
> Working fine for me on i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.9, latest
> CVS.

It takes a little while to compile on this system, so I've confirmed
that it worked correctly on versions checked out for 2008-06-01 and
2008-06-08 but not when checked out with "cvs ... co -D yesterday"
which leads me to think that something probably changed sometime within
the last week.  Since it seems that nobody else is having problems,
I'll give my library versions too:

	gtk2+-2.12.9
	libXft-2.1.12

I've attached the output of the configure script, and the config.log
(gzipped) -- if desired, I can attach the ones from the version as of
2008-06-08 as well, so they can be diff'd.

-- 
Taylor Venable            http://real.metasyntax.net:2357/

foldr = lambda f, i, l: (len(l) == 1 and [f(l[0], i)] or
                         [f(l[0], foldr(f, i, l[1:]))])[0]

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Re: No XFT in CVS from this morning

[Taylor Venable]

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:39:35 -0400
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:

> > I built Emacs from CVS this morning, and there's no font
> > anti-aliasing being done.  Here are the hopefully relevant lines
> > from configure:
> 
> > checking XFT_CFLAGS... -D_POSIX_THREAD_SAFE_FUNCTIONS
> > -I/usr/pkg/include -I/usr/pkg/include/freetype2 checking XFT_LIBS...
> > -Wl,-R/usr/pkg/lib -L/usr/pkg/lib -lXft -lXrender -lfontconfig
> > -lfreetype -lz -lX11 checking X11/Xft/Xft.h usability... yes
> > checking X11/Xft/Xft.h presence... yes checking for
> > X11/Xft/Xft.h... yes checking for XftFontOpen in -lXft... yes
> > checking for pkg-config... (cached) /usr/pkg/bin/pkg-config
> > checking for libotf... no
> > checking for pkg-config... (cached) /usr/pkg/bin/pkg-config
> > checking for m17n-flt... no
> 
> > Platform is NetBSD 4.99.63 on AMD64 with GCC 4.1.3 -- let me know if
> > anything else would be useful.  This was working on a build from
> > probably about a month ago, but that was the last one I did until
> > this morning, so about anything in-between I cannot say.  Nothing
> > else in the configuration has changed, and the behaviour is the
> > same with or without "-q".
> 
> Try to add
> 
>   (push '(font-backend xft x) default-frame-alist)
> 
> to your .emacs.  The current default is to prefer old-style X fonts.

This didn't change the behaviour.  I removed the entry for the X fonts
(leaving Xft only) and got the following messages:

frame-notice-user-settings: Font `-misc-dejavu sans
mono-medium-r-normal--13-125-75-75-m-80-iso8859-1' is not defined Error
while displaying tooltip: (error Font not available #<font-spec nil
misc dejavu sans mono  iso8859-1 nil nil normal 13 0 100 0 nil>)

It seems that Xft fonts cannot even be loaded or recognized?
Please see also my other message (just sent) which has information from
the configure script attached.

-- 
Taylor Venable            http://real.metasyntax.net:2357/

foldr = lambda f, i, l: (len(l) == 1 and [f(l[0], i)] or
                         [f(l[0], foldr(f, i, l[1:]))])[0]

Re: No XFT in CVS from this morning

[Taylor Venable]

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:44:01 -0400
Taylor Venable <taylor@metasyntax.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:08:12 -0400
> Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> wrote:
> 
> > Taylor Venable <taylor@metasyntax.net> writes:
> > 
> > >> > I built Emacs from CVS this morning, and there's no font
> > >> > anti-aliasing being done.
> > >> 
> > >> I can't reproduce this using latest CVS.  What font are you
> > >> using?
> > >
> > > From my .emacs file:
> > >
> > > (set-face-attribute 'default nil
> > >   :font "DejaVu Sans Mono-13" :slant 'normal :weight 'normal)
> > 
> > Working fine for me on i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.9,
> > latest CVS.
> 
> It takes a little while to compile on this system, so I've confirmed
> that it worked correctly on versions checked out for 2008-06-01 and
> 2008-06-08 but not when checked out with "cvs ... co -D yesterday"
> which leads me to think that something probably changed sometime
> within the last week.  Since it seems that nobody else is having
> problems, I'll give my library versions too:
> 
> 	gtk2+-2.12.9
> 	libXft-2.1.12
> 
> I've attached the output of the configure script, and the config.log
> (gzipped) -- if desired, I can attach the ones from the version as of
> 2008-06-08 as well, so they can be diff'd.

Based on repeated compilation, I've found that the change in behaviour
from properly anti-aliasing fonts to rendering them without anti-
aliasing comes from a change made on or after 2008-06-13; checkouts
made from versions before this date work fine, and checkouts made from
versions on or after this date produce the erroneous behaviour.  I see
from the ChangeLog that a lot of work was done then; perhaps one of
these changes is the one that causes the effects in my installation?

-- 
Taylor Venable            http://real.metasyntax.net:2357/

foldr = lambda f, i, l: (len(l) == 1 and [f(l[0], i)] or
                         [f(l[0], foldr(f, i, l[1:]))])[0]

Re: No XFT in CVS from this morning

[Kenichi Handa]

In article <20080617112122.177cb232.taylor@metasyntax.net>, Taylor Venable <taylor@metasyntax.net> writes:

> I built Emacs from CVS this morning, and there's no font anti-aliasing
> being done.  Here are the hopefully relevant lines from configure:

> checking XFT_CFLAGS... -D_POSIX_THREAD_SAFE_FUNCTIONS
> -I/usr/pkg/include -I/usr/pkg/include/freetype2 checking XFT_LIBS...
> -Wl,-R/usr/pkg/lib -L/usr/pkg/lib -lXft -lXrender -lfontconfig
> -lfreetype -lz -lX11 checking X11/Xft/Xft.h usability... yes checking
> X11/Xft/Xft.h presence... yes checking for X11/Xft/Xft.h... yes
> checking for XftFontOpen in -lXft... yes
> checking for pkg-config... (cached) /usr/pkg/bin/pkg-config
> checking for libotf... no
> checking for pkg-config... (cached) /usr/pkg/bin/pkg-config
> checking for m17n-flt... no

Please start Emacs as this:
% EMACS_FONT_LOG=1 emacs -Q
then show me the result of M-x font-show-log RET.

---
Kenichi Handa
handa@ni.aist.go.jp

Re: No XFT in CVS from this morning

[Taylor Venable]

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On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:41:49 +0900
Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org> wrote:

> In article <20080617112122.177cb232.taylor@metasyntax.net>, Taylor
> Venable <taylor@metasyntax.net> writes:
> 
> > I built Emacs from CVS this morning, and there's no font
> > anti-aliasing being done.  Here are the hopefully relevant lines
> > from configure:
> 
> > checking XFT_CFLAGS... -D_POSIX_THREAD_SAFE_FUNCTIONS
> > -I/usr/pkg/include -I/usr/pkg/include/freetype2 checking XFT_LIBS...
> > -Wl,-R/usr/pkg/lib -L/usr/pkg/lib -lXft -lXrender -lfontconfig
> > -lfreetype -lz -lX11 checking X11/Xft/Xft.h usability... yes
> > checking X11/Xft/Xft.h presence... yes checking for
> > X11/Xft/Xft.h... yes checking for XftFontOpen in -lXft... yes
> > checking for pkg-config... (cached) /usr/pkg/bin/pkg-config
> > checking for libotf... no
> > checking for pkg-config... (cached) /usr/pkg/bin/pkg-config
> > checking for m17n-flt... no
> 
> Please start Emacs as this:
> % EMACS_FONT_LOG=1 emacs -Q
> then show me the result of M-x font-show-log RET.

Please see attached.

Thanks,

-- 
Taylor Venable            http://real.metasyntax.net:2357/

foldr = lambda f, i, l: (len(l) == 1 and [f(l[0], i)] or
                         [f(l[0], foldr(f, i, l[1:]))])[0]

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Re: No XFT in CVS from this morning

[Kenichi Handa]

In article <20080617214153.16043644.taylor@metasyntax.net>, Taylor Venable <taylor@metasyntax.net> writes:

> > Please start Emacs as this:
> > % EMACS_FONT_LOG=1 emacs -Q
> > then show me the result of M-x font-show-log RET.

> Please see attached.
[...]
> [2 emacs-font-log.txt <text/plain (7bit)>]
> xfont-list: -*-DejaVu Sans Mono-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
>   -misc-dejavu sans mono-medium-r-normal--12-*-75-75-m-*-iso8859-1
>   -misc-dejavu sans mono-medium-r-normal--*-0-0-m-*-iso8859-1
>   -misc-dejavu sans mono-medium-o-normal--12-*-75-75-m-*-iso8859-1
>   -misc-dejavu sans mono-medium-o-normal--*-0-0-m-*-iso8859-1
>   -misc-dejavu sans mono-bold-r-normal--12-*-75-75-m-*-iso8859-1
>   -misc-dejavu sans mono-bold-r-normal--*-0-0-m-*-iso8859-1
>   -misc-dejavu sans mono-bold-o-normal--12-*-75-75-m-*-iso8859-1
>   -misc-dejavu sans mono-bold-o-normal--*-0-0-m-*-iso8859-1
> ftfont-list: -*-DejaVu Sans Mono-*-iso8859-1
>   -unknown-DejaVu Sans Mono-bold-normal-normal-*-m-0-iso8859-1
>   -unknown-DejaVu Sans Mono-normal-oblique-normal-*-m-0-iso8859-1
>   -unknown-DejaVu Sans Mono-normal-normal-normal-*-m-0-iso8859-1
>   -unknown-DejaVu Sans Mono-bold-oblique-normal-*-m-0-iso8859-1

This means that x-backend comes before xft-backend.
Strange.  Didn't you say that you have:

  (push '(font-backend xft x) default-frame-alist)

in your .emacs?

How about this?

% emacs --xrm 'Emacs*FontBackend: xft x'

---
Kenichi Handa
handa@ni.aist.go.jp

Re: No XFT in CVS from this morning

[Taylor Venable]

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On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:08:13 +0900
Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org> wrote:

> In article <20080617214153.16043644.taylor@metasyntax.net>, Taylor
> Venable <taylor@metasyntax.net> writes:
> 
> > > Please start Emacs as this:
> > > % EMACS_FONT_LOG=1 emacs -Q
> > > then show me the result of M-x font-show-log RET.
> 
> > Please see attached.
> [...]
> > [2 emacs-font-log.txt <text/plain (7bit)>]
> > xfont-list: -*-DejaVu Sans Mono-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
> >   -misc-dejavu sans mono-medium-r-normal--12-*-75-75-m-*-iso8859-1
> >   -misc-dejavu sans mono-medium-r-normal--*-0-0-m-*-iso8859-1
> >   -misc-dejavu sans mono-medium-o-normal--12-*-75-75-m-*-iso8859-1
> >   -misc-dejavu sans mono-medium-o-normal--*-0-0-m-*-iso8859-1
> >   -misc-dejavu sans mono-bold-r-normal--12-*-75-75-m-*-iso8859-1
> >   -misc-dejavu sans mono-bold-r-normal--*-0-0-m-*-iso8859-1
> >   -misc-dejavu sans mono-bold-o-normal--12-*-75-75-m-*-iso8859-1
> >   -misc-dejavu sans mono-bold-o-normal--*-0-0-m-*-iso8859-1
> > ftfont-list: -*-DejaVu Sans Mono-*-iso8859-1
> >   -unknown-DejaVu Sans Mono-bold-normal-normal-*-m-0-iso8859-1
> >   -unknown-DejaVu Sans Mono-normal-oblique-normal-*-m-0-iso8859-1
> >   -unknown-DejaVu Sans Mono-normal-normal-normal-*-m-0-iso8859-1
> >   -unknown-DejaVu Sans Mono-bold-oblique-normal-*-m-0-iso8859-1
> 
> This means that x-backend comes before xft-backend.
> Strange.  Didn't you say that you have:
> 
>   (push '(font-backend xft x) default-frame-alist)
> 
> in your .emacs?

I do.  There is no change in behaviour, and the new output from the
font log is attached (the other one was with "-Q").

> How about this?
> 
> % emacs --xrm 'Emacs*FontBackend: xft x'

I get: "No font backend available" both with and without "-Q".

-- 
Taylor Venable            http://real.metasyntax.net:2357/

foldr = lambda f, i, l: (len(l) == 1 and [f(l[0], i)] or
                         [f(l[0], foldr(f, i, l[1:]))])[0]

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  -misc-dejavu sans mono-medium-r-normal--*-0-0-m-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-dejavu sans mono-medium-r-normal--12-*-75-75-m-*-iso8859-1
sort-by: -misc-dejavu sans mono-bold-r-normal--13-*-0-0-m-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-dejavu sans mono-bold-r-normal--*-0-0-m-*-iso8859-1

Re: No XFT in CVS from this morning

[Kenichi Handa]

In article <20080617224331.57adb1e2.taylor@metasyntax.net>, Taylor Venable <taylor@metasyntax.net> writes:

> > % emacs --xrm 'Emacs*FontBackend: xft x'

> I get: "No font backend available" both with and without "-Q".

Oops, sorry, this is the correct form:

% emacs --xrm 'Emacs*FontBackend: xft,x'

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Kenichi Handa
handa@ni.aist.go.jp

Re: No XFT in CVS from this morning

[Taylor Venable]

On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:52:10 +0900
Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org> wrote:

> In article <20080617224331.57adb1e2.taylor@metasyntax.net>, Taylor
> Venable <taylor@metasyntax.net> writes:
> 
> > > % emacs --xrm 'Emacs*FontBackend: xft x'
> 
> > I get: "No font backend available" both with and without "-Q".
> 
> Oops, sorry, this is the correct form:
> 
> % emacs --xrm 'Emacs*FontBackend: xft,x'

Great!  That fixes it.  I guess perhaps the equivalent Lisp code when
put into the .emacs file doesn't get read early enough to take effect
on the first frame?  Anyway, thank you very much.

-- 
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                         [f(l[0], foldr(f, i, l[1:]))])[0]

Re: No XFT in CVS from this morning

[Kenichi Handa]

In article <20080618064209.5bee6ca7.taylor@metasyntax.net>, Taylor Venable <taylor@metasyntax.net> writes:

> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:52:10 +0900
> Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org> wrote:

> > In article <20080617224331.57adb1e2.taylor@metasyntax.net>, Taylor
> > Venable <taylor@metasyntax.net> writes:
> > 
> > > > % emacs --xrm 'Emacs*FontBackend: xft x'
> > 
> > > I get: "No font backend available" both with and without "-Q".
> > 
> > Oops, sorry, this is the correct form:
> > 
> > % emacs --xrm 'Emacs*FontBackend: xft,x'

> Great!  That fixes it.  I guess perhaps the equivalent Lisp code when
> put into the .emacs file doesn't get read early enough to take effect
> on the first frame?

It seems so.

> > xfont-list: -*-DejaVu Sans Mono-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
> >   -misc-dejavu sans mono-medium-r-normal--12-*-75-75-m-*-iso8859-1
[...]
> > ftfont-list: -*-DejaVu Sans Mono-*-iso8859-1
> >   -unknown-DejaVu Sans Mono-bold-normal-normal-*-m-0-iso8859-1

Hmmm, when Emacs starts, it uses X font which has "misc"
foundary, and Emacs remembers that.  Later, when the
font-backend order is changed, Emacs still prefer a font of
"misc" foundary.  And, unfortunately, fontconfig returns
that same font with "unknown" foundary.

It seems that we must remember somehow which font properties
are actually specified, and which are just extracted from
the selected font.

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Kenichi Handa
handa@ni.aist.go.jp