From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs-devel Digest, Vol 52, Issue 61 Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 21:26:32 +0000 Message-ID: <20080607212632.GK1812@muc.de> References: <20080607125159.8A74F9F05B4@grelber.thyrsus.com> <20080607132037.GA21979@thyrsus.com> <20080607141452.GF1812@muc.de> <20080607152408.GG1812@muc.de> <20080607183458.GH1812@muc.de> <75tzg5hvi5.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20080607201057.GA9100@thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1212872714 23818 80.91.229.12 (7 Jun 2008 21:05:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 21:05:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Glenn Morris , Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, lekktu@gmail.com To: "Eric S. Raymond" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 07 23:05:56 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K55bh-0005FD-3T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 23:05:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44783 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K55au-0007dZ-A7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 17:05:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K55aU-0007Kc-BG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 17:04:34 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K55aT-0007Jw-Qd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 17:04:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38499 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K55aT-0007Jp-EY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 17:04:33 -0400 Original-Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:1389 helo=mail.muc.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K55aS-0006E3-Vr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 17:04:33 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 89545 invoked by uid 3782); 7 Jun 2008 21:04:31 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (pD9E51DC7.dip.t-dialin.net [217.229.29.199]) by colin2.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 23:04:28 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 27324 invoked by uid 1000); 7 Jun 2008 21:26:32 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080607201057.GA9100@thyrsus.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.5 (Fettercairn) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.6-4.9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:98628 Archived-At: On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 04:10:57PM -0400, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > Um, what else do you suppose the fact that I half-expect the build to > be broken on any given day means? That you do a `cvs update' with dread, not knowing how many unproductive hours lie ahead before you can get back to doing real work on Emacs. That you will thus procrastinate updating Emacs, and suffer dissatisfaction from not doing the Right Thing. That working on Emacs is less fun than it might be, and that this has thus gone way down on your personal hacking priority list. Am I right? -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).