From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Don Armstrong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: 23.0.60; emacs-report-bug fails silently Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 09:43:47 -0700 Message-ID: <20080605164347.GZ10430@volo.donarmstrong.com> References: <874p8fi9op.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> <87od6lc1bd.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> <87skvwdztw.fsf@gmail.com> <87fxrvejho.fsf@gmail.com> <20080603082635.GB13718@tomas> <20080605124158.GA28579@tomas> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1212684331 10673 80.91.229.12 (5 Jun 2008 16:45:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:45:31 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 05 18:46:12 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K4IbL-0005pk-2Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:46:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46721 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K4IaY-0003eo-AR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:45:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K4IYq-0002On-D9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:43:36 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K4IYn-0002NT-W8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:43:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56361 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K4IYn-0002NJ-Hk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:43:33 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:42791) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K4IYn-0002Hz-FI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:43:33 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m55GhR1p031071 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 09:43:27 -0700 Original-Received: (from remotemail@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m55GhR4l031070 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 09:43:27 -0700 Original-Received: (nullmailer pid 2074 invoked by uid 1000); Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:43:47 -0000 Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080605124158.GA28579@tomas> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:98473 Archived-At: On Thu, 05 Jun 2008, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: > Actually no. As a counterexample, for my laptop, "the destination" > will never be "reachable" (smtp-wise). I have an smtp running on it > because my distro insists on it and I don't feel like fighting it. Almost all of the sane distributions configure their default MTA to send to some smarthost by default. [I know that's how exim, postfix, and nullmailer are configured in Debian.] There's no reason not to have a working /usr/lib/sendmail on unix. Don Armstrong -- No matter how many instances of white swans we may have observed, this does not justify the conclusion that all swans are white. -- Sir Karl Popper _Logic of Scientific Discovery_ http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu