From: tomas@tuxteam.de
To: Patrick Drechsler <patrick@pdrechsler.de>
Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: 23.0.60; [nxml] BOM and utf-8
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 06:17:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080522041745.GA29437@tomas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mymjs2qw.fsf@pdrechsler.de>
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 12:37:11AM +0200, Patrick Drechsler wrote:
> Patrick Drechsler <patrick@pdrechsler.de> writes:
This would be rather a question to w3.org, but...
> > ,----[ http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml-20060816/#charencoding ]
> > | Entities encoded in UTF-16 MUST and entities encoded in UTF-8 MAY
> > | begin with the Byte Order Mark [...]
> > | [...] XML processors MUST be able to use this character to
> > | differentiate between UTF-8 and UTF-16 encoded documents.
> > `----
...and how are the XML processors supposed to achieve that? Is there a
second variant of BOM, indicating UTF-8?
> > and
> >
> > ,----[ http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml-20060816/#sec-guessing-with-ext-info ]
> > | If an XML entity is in a file, the Byte-Order Mark and encoding
> > | declaration are used (if present) to determine the character encoding.
> > `----
...or is rather the absence of a BOM the indicator for UTF-8?
Am I completely whacko, or are they?
Sorry. I am confused.
Ah, and BTW: interpreting the BOM as whitespace is not that far off --
as stated in <http://unicode.org/faq/utf_bom.html#38>:
| Q: What should I do with U+FEFF in the middle of a file?
|
| A: In the absence of a protocol supporting its use as a BOM and when not
| at the beginning of a text stream, U+FEFF should normally not occur. For
| backwards compatibility it should be treated as ZERO WIDTH NON-BREAKING
| SPACE (ZWNBSP), and is then part of the content of the file or string.
[...]
But that would be "in the middle of a file", not at the beginning, as
our case is.
I'd appreciate any insights.
Thanks
- -- tomás
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux)
iD8DBQFINPPpBcgs9XrR2kYRAutgAJ9BXb32mnDV53T3RTOBu4LGmOfHIgCfUxNG
EJYtPO908ac75bw1vERvRyQ=
=IQaH
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-05-22 4:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-17 12:31 23.0.60; [nxml] BOM and utf-8 Patrick Drechsler
2008-05-17 14:13 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-05-17 16:57 ` Patrick Drechsler
2008-05-17 20:38 ` Mark A. Hershberger
2008-05-21 22:20 ` Patrick Drechsler
2008-05-21 22:37 ` Patrick Drechsler
2008-05-22 1:33 ` Mark A. Hershberger
2008-05-22 14:43 ` Tom Tromey
2008-05-22 21:24 ` Miles Bader
2008-05-22 4:17 ` tomas [this message]
2008-05-22 4:33 ` Miles Bader
2008-05-22 8:28 ` Jason Rumney
2008-05-27 8:22 ` tomas
2008-05-22 17:34 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-05-23 9:05 ` tomas
2008-05-23 21:23 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-05-27 8:20 ` tomas
2008-05-18 2:29 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-05-18 2:30 ` Miles Bader
2008-05-18 3:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-05-18 4:19 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-05-18 8:56 ` Jason Rumney
2008-05-18 11:00 ` Patrick Drechsler
2008-05-19 3:11 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-05-19 14:32 ` Patrick Drechsler
2008-05-19 18:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-05-20 15:16 ` Patrick Drechsler
2008-05-18 15:19 ` joakim
2008-05-18 4:13 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-05-18 5:40 ` Miles Bader
2008-05-18 9:14 ` David Kastrup
2008-05-19 3:05 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-05-18 23:40 ` David Kastrup
2008-05-19 20:34 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-05-19 20:57 ` David Kastrup
2008-05-19 23:36 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-05-20 7:13 ` David Kastrup
2008-05-30 2:47 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-05-30 3:44 ` Miles Bader
2008-05-30 3:59 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-05-19 6:32 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
List information: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20080522041745.GA29437@tomas \
--to=tomas@tuxteam.de \
--cc=emacs-devel@gnu.org \
--cc=emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org \
--cc=patrick@pdrechsler.de \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this public inbox
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).