From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Heads up, VC front end about to undergo major surgery Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 17:20:25 -0700 Message-ID: <200805080020.m480KPN6002631@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> References: <20080507235737.955219F01C2@snark.thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1210206154 1156 80.91.229.12 (8 May 2008 00:22:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 00:22:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Eric S. Raymond" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 08 02:23:08 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jttub-0007al-Gt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 02:23:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46571 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jttts-0006df-QZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 May 2008 20:22:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jtttp-0006da-EV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 May 2008 20:22:17 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jtttn-0006dO-So for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 May 2008 20:22:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53447 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jtttn-0006dL-Na for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 May 2008 20:22:15 -0400 Original-Received: from sallyv1.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.109]:61174) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA1:24) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jtttn-0004TG-AG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 May 2008 20:22:15 -0400 X-ICS-MailScanner-Watermark: 1210810826.48312@XuWy6peJmnOO77MaIH2iaw Original-Received: from mothra.ics.uci.edu (mothra.ics.uci.edu [128.195.6.93]) by sallyv1.ics.uci.edu (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m480KPN6002631; Wed, 7 May 2008 17:20:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20080507235737.955219F01C2@snark.thyrsus.com> (Eric S. Raymond's message of "Wed, 7 May 2008 19:57:37 -0400 (EDT)") Original-Lines: 32 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@mothra.ics.uci.edu X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:96716 Archived-At: "Eric S. Raymond" writes: > I've done as much as I can by refactoring and cutting away > undergrowth. While I'll do my best to prevent actual breakage, the > upcoming round of changes to the VC front end are likely to be > somewhat disruptive. Please have patience over the next few days; > I expect to be through the risky part by Friday or so. > > This is going to be the part where I exploit ewoc to pass directories > down to the backends, relying on them to perform the right expansiuon > to lists of files rather that doing that at the level of the VC front > end. (We couldn't do this when the directory browser was tied to > Dired because directories aren't first-class in Dired-land). Can you please expand on what will change? Directories are passed to VC operations right now (and you can mark/unmark them in the UI too) > There are two kinds of things likely to go wrong: > > (1) The behavior of the UI is going to be modified along the lines I > described in my design proposal. The actions of some commands will > change in subtle ways; especially in edge cases like (a) no selection > set or (b) unregistered files. You may see behaviors that, though > logically consistent, differ from what experience has led you to expect. > > (2) Various backend methods may just crap out when handed a directory > instead of a file list. It is difficult to anticipate this sort of > problem, so please complain to the list if you run afoul of one and > I'll fix it ASAP. If anything goes wrong with the git backend, please contact the maintainer. He might already have fixes.