From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eric M. Ludlam" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re[2]: What IDE features are in CEDET? Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:26:59 -0400 Message-ID: <200804261226.m3QCQx6l017646@projectile.siege-engine.com> References: <200804251727.m3PHRv2b012968@projectile.siege-engine.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1209212834 16391 80.91.229.12 (26 Apr 2008 12:27:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 12:27:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 26 14:27:49 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JpjVM-0006pT-Pd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:27:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49216 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JpjUg-000743-GJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:27:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JpjUc-00073r-1u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:27:02 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JpjUa-00073V-Hi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:27:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38613 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JpjUa-00073S-Cr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:27:00 -0400 Original-Received: from static-71-184-83-10.bstnma.fios.verizon.net ([71.184.83.10] helo=projectile.siege-engine.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JpjUa-000277-7w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:27:00 -0400 Original-Received: from projectile.siege-engine.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by projectile.siege-engine.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id m3QCQxZi017650; Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:26:59 -0400 Original-Received: (from zappo@localhost) by projectile.siege-engine.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id m3QCQx6l017646; Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:26:59 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Richard M Stallman on Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:45:47 -0400) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:95975 Archived-At: >>> Richard M Stallman seems to think that: > My long term goal for CEDET is wider than just intellisense. > >The question I asked is about current status, not goals. >We were shown a list of common IDE capabilities. >Which of those can CEDET currently do? >Which of those can CEDET not currently do? > >It may be that I could determine the answer from your message >if I knew the field thoroughly, but I don't and I can't. Ok. CEDET provides smart-completion, and the smart help (like eldoc) that was discussed now. CEDET is part-way to providing a range of the refactoring features listed earlier, but will not do them now. CEDET provides the data needed by ECB for all the browsing features that were discussed. > I want to see Emacs provide round-trip code to UML and back again > interface that works for any language, where refactoring can occur w/ > a UML diagram editor that re-writes your code. > >Do you mean to implement this INSIDE Emacs, or just have Emacs use >external programs to do it? Inside Emacs, with external programs optional. Eric -- Eric Ludlam: eric@siege-engine.com Siege: www.siege-engine.com Emacs: http://cedet.sourceforge.net