From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xavier Maillard Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: position on changing defaults? Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 02:00:03 +0100 Organization: GNU's Not UNIX! Message-ID: <200803110100.m2B1031g007031@localhost.localdomain> References: Reply-To: Xavier Maillard NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205199569 27374 80.91.229.12 (11 Mar 2008 01:39:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:39:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dann@ics.uci.edu, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "paul r" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 11 02:39:55 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JYtT8-0002lP-Vs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 02:39:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JYtSa-00011L-MC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:39:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JYtOs-0006z4-88 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:35:30 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JYtOr-0006yX-Lx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:35:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JYtOr-0006yF-23 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:35:29 -0400 Original-Received: from master.uucpssh.org ([193.218.105.66]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JYtOn-0007FH-5P; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:35:25 -0400 Original-Received: by master.uucpssh.org (Postfix, from userid 10) id 3560DC7267; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 02:34:03 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain (IDENT:1000@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.14.1/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m2B107PI007038; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 02:00:07 +0100 Original-Received: (from xma@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.14.1/8.13.8/Submit) id m2B1031g007031; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 02:00:03 +0100 In-reply-to: (paul.r.ml@gmail.com) User-Agent: Rmail in GNU Emacs 23.0.60.2 on GNU/Linux Jabber-ID: xma01@jabber.fr X-uucpssh: Found to be clean X-uucpssh-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.39, required 4.6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.01, BAYES_00 -2.60, SPF_HELO_PASS -0.00) X-uucpssh-From: xma@gnu.org X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:92115 Archived-At: 2008/3/7, Richard Stallman : > I have never tried iswitchb. What incompatible changes would I notice > if this change were made? You will be able to chose the buffer you want to go to in a find-as-you-type way. I find the benefit of it real, because : - there is no need to hit the * to go to *Message* - there is no need to hit S-M for the capital M in *Message* - you might want to go to a buffer that you can not remember precisely how its name begins, but know a slice of its name : enter the slice until you see the correct name appear Basically, it makes one need buffer-list less often, therefore "increase productivity". But as Stefan said, all that is a matter of improving the completion mechanism of switch-to-buffer. What will maybe annoy you using it is how to choose, in the list of buffers matching your entry, the one you really want. In a purely incremental search like in switch-to-buffer, there is no need of such a mechanism because names are completed up to ambiguity, and desambiguity is made be entering a few more caracters. In iswichb, if you have opened buffers "first-foobar" and "second-foobar" and you enter "foobar", there is ambiguity. Iswitchb provides C-s and C-r to move forward and backward in the list of matching buffers. I personaly find this last design choice counter-intuitive, and I think it could be improved. But all the rest is very valuable. Well sumed up Paul. Why not put this as an entry into the manual as a first "shoot" ? I am speaking about the first paragraph and the part on C-r and C-s. Regards, Xavier -- http://www.gnu.org http://www.april.org http://www.lolica.org