From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: position on changing defaults? Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 17:10:29 -0800 Message-ID: <200803090110.m291ATgi006793@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> References: <200803050637.m256bXL3008361@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200803052230.m25MUORx001881@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200803070407.m27471TG016558@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <87hcfg4u7p.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <200803090036.m290a4oW020277@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <8763vw4ti8.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205025108 2104 80.91.229.12 (9 Mar 2008 01:11:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 01:11:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 09 02:12:15 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JYA59-0007ae-Pr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 02:12:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JYA4b-00075i-Jl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 20:11:33 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JYA4X-00073Y-CM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 20:11:29 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JYA4V-00073M-29 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 20:11:28 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JYA4U-00073J-SB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 20:11:26 -0500 Original-Received: from sallyv1.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.109]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA1:24) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JYA4R-0001VS-0u; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 20:11:23 -0500 X-ICS-MailScanner-Watermark: 1205629831.3263@0bTbB5oNro9Zeoo11ueIcw Original-Received: from mothra.ics.uci.edu (mothra.ics.uci.edu [128.195.6.93]) by sallyv1.ics.uci.edu (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m291ATgi006793; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 17:10:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8763vw4ti8.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Sun, 09 Mar 2008 09:43:11 +0900") Original-Lines: 15 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@mothra.ics.uci.edu X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:91822 Archived-At: Miles Bader writes: > Dan Nicolaescu writes: > > It is not dissimilar to the UI that you get nowadays when typing a URL > > in a browser. Users seem to do just fine with that. Maybe it's time > > to reconsider what a user knows and does not know nowadays. > > The difference is that such browser interfaces are designed to fairly > readable and clear. iswitchb is not. Perhaps if you say what is unclear, then it can be improved, or something better can be developed. Just making statements like that is not helpful.