From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: vc-set-mode-line-busy-indicator Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 11:18:26 -0800 Message-ID: <200803081918.m28JIQJC001073@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> References: <18370.47294.641890.556694@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <18371.9275.720477.806834@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <2vzltos6g1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <18371.49683.356527.589505@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <18377.55334.203888.524043@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <434pbqcaz5.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <200803021853.m22IrRvA000730@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200803031858.m23IwToH009344@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200803041839.m24Idmis008291@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200803052150.m25Loonc011429@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205004058 7684 80.91.229.12 (8 Mar 2008 19:20:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 19:20:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rgm@gnu.org, nickrob@snap.net.nz, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Miles Bader To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 08 20:21:25 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JY4bb-0002XF-Et for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 20:21:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JY4b3-0004gM-Cr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:20:41 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JY4ax-0004dq-TF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:20:35 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JY4au-0004aC-KD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:20:35 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JY4au-0004a5-B7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:20:32 -0500 Original-Received: from sallyv1.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.109]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA1:24) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JY4aj-00089S-E0; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:20:21 -0500 X-ICS-MailScanner-Watermark: 1205608707.08372@pXU1MotljplFv2HmOhiixA Original-Received: from mothra.ics.uci.edu (mothra.ics.uci.edu [128.195.6.93]) by sallyv1.ics.uci.edu (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m28JIQJC001073; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 11:18:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat, 08 Mar 2008 12:39:58 -0500") Original-Lines: 40 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@mothra.ics.uci.edu X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:91752 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > I dunno, maybe it's just a personal foible, but emacs the "diff" command > used to add this sort of terminator line (haven't noticed recently) sort > of terminator string, and I always found it very annoying -- it probably > doesn't cause anything to _break_ but it was like an ugly little wart, > and I always ended up going to extra effort to delete it when saving the > output. > > I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill. If there is no > other reason for its removal, we should put it back in. I think you misunderstand, this has not been done in any released version of emacs, it was just a failed experiment in CVS HEAD. > I think the highlighted mode-line status indicators used by > e.g. compile-mode (running or finished etc) now are really nice and do a > great job of quickly making me aware of what's going on. > > Those canbe useful, but inserting text at the end is also useful. For > instance, M-x compile does both. When it finishes, it inserts text > saying "Compilation finished ...". Compilation buffers are fundamentally different: people don't email them, read the with a lot of attention, and don't pass them to other tools, so this argument does not apply. > It forces you to do yet another operation (delete the extra output) > every time when copying from the diff buffer to and email message, or > some other place. > > You don't need to delete that extra output. It doesn't cause any harm > if you copy it into an email message. I does, I've had a bad personal experience with that: after adding patches at the end of mail messages with using M-x insert-buffer RET *vc-diff* RET I got a comment: "Please fix your mailer not to insert crap at the end of messages" There's no reason to subject emacs users to such abuse for absolutely zero benefit.