From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: position on changing defaults? Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:49:20 -0800 Message-ID: <200803060349.m263nKHn002156@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> References: <200803050637.m256bXL3008361@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200803052230.m25MUORx001881@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <87mypcn4od.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1204775435 2467 80.91.229.12 (6 Mar 2008 03:50:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 03:50:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 06 04:51:02 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JX78H-0002Z1-FI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 04:51:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JX77j-00070q-N7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:50:27 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JX77f-00070l-Qf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:50:23 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JX77e-00070Z-CB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:50:22 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JX77e-00070W-75 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:50:22 -0500 Original-Received: from sallyv1.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.109]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA1:24) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JX77a-0000M8-7i; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:50:18 -0500 X-ICS-MailScanner-Watermark: 1205380161.09779@A2iQyrmbbb/F2z0UrsAckA Original-Received: from mothra.ics.uci.edu (mothra.ics.uci.edu [128.195.6.93]) by sallyv1.ics.uci.edu (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m263nKHn002156; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 19:49:20 -0800 (PST) Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <87mypcn4od.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Thu, 06 Mar 2008 08:15:30 +0900") Original-Lines: 14 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@mothra.ics.uci.edu X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:91464 Archived-At: Miles Bader writes: > Dan Nicolaescu writes: > > > I'd rather improve the general completion mechanism, than only improve > > > it for buffer selection. > > > > That would be great too. But we also need to consider the fact iswitch > > is here now, it works and is useful > > .... and is a completely and utterly different interface, one which is > hated by many, and arguably is extremely confusing for newbies. We must have different experiences: all the newbies that I've shown iswitchb loved it. That's the main reason to propose this.